RE: Muslim Imam calls for Homosexual death 3 weeks before pulse nigh club shooting
June 28, 2016 at 4:03 pm
(June 28, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Veritas_Vincit Wrote: "We as Christians" is a problematic phrase - when you call yourself a 'Christian' you are not sufficiently defining your position. 'Christian' includes EVERYONE who defines themselves as such, including the Westborough Baptist Church - as vile as they are, their Biblical justification is sound and they have just as much right to call themselves Christian as you do. That's the elephant in the room with their protests - if you want to be considered separate from all the parts of Christianity you dislike then it's on you to use a less broad brush.you can just ask next time... When you don't fully understand my position, you know rather than assume I have not covered the 'elephant in the room.'
When I said Christian's I meant all who claim the title, yes even the westboroughs and the Mormons of this world. As Christianity is indeed subdivided into 30K different recognized expressions as recognized by the state. Which again include your elephants. The broader point I was making by including these expressions of the faith was to say that when ever we as christians differ, we split from one another. meaning new church new rules. that means I can call myself christian and not recognize another who does the opposite but wants to retain the title. Sunni Muslims do not do this. (which is why you will be hard pressed to ever heard a sunni condemn another for an act of jihad.) That means there are no fringes of the religion as all are accepted under a single umbrella.
Quote:The truth is that the God of the Bible explicitly states that homosexual acts are an abomination and punishable by death,If you are an OT Jew yes, but even the jews now are not considered to be "OT Jews."
Quote:and Jesus explicitly states that all of the Old Testament law still stands,No actually he does not.
He said he did not come to change the law, He did not say it "still stands."
Quote:so for you to call yourself a Christian but presumably disagree with the word of the Christian God undermines your position and puts the homophobes on stronger ground.You just made my point for me didn't you?
Even if you were confused about what Christ said you could point to what I believe and call me a left wing christian and disavow me. and I could do the opposite to you.. But again In Islam this is not so. The one who shoots up a night club is actual more well respected than a tax paying law abiding citizen. The shooter is considered to be more devout, and therefore commands more reward from their god.
The law abider can not disagree and call him a right wing nut bag.. He is forced to accept the shooter as doing what he has been called to do under the religion.