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Muslim Imam calls for Homosexual death 3 weeks before pulse nigh club shooting
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RE: Muslim Imam calls for Homosexual death 3 weeks before pulse nigh club shooting
(June 28, 2016 at 9:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't think such laws should exist without the admonishment from God and his words being made most high in society. That is, without that foundation,  it cannot be forced to a society and it will backfire. With the foundation there, it should exist.
Why?.....and isn't it backfiring, even where magic book is made most high?  

Quote:I also think perhaps (not sure about this), laws like this should only be implemented under the rule of an infallible guide by God who is sinless or else, it will seem corrupt if you have people who are not sinless on top of society.
Does it matter whether or not the man who orders a cruel and inhuman punishment is a good person?  Why, does that make the punishment less cruel or inhuman? 

Quote:There is division on that, and I'm not sure, I haven't reflected and reasoned between both sides of the issue on it.  But no I don't think non-Muslims should implement this law anymore then banning alcohol. It will backfire, without, the word of God being made most high.
Well, hey, reflect and reason with me.  Yet another service we provide.

Quote:The fact that such laws are beneficial for society but in dire need of words from God (and even can be argued an infallible ruler and guide from God) point to the need of revelation for society from God.
Im not sure how you;ve determined that lashings for the crime of sex are beneficial for society, but here..finally..you may have found something upon which I would agree that a revelation from a god is needed..if that;s what it would take, to stop people from flaying each other over getting laid. If only god weren't silent in the face of this barbarity, if only god existed.

Quote:There are some rules that no matter what secular punishment you put, are not going to be followed, without a foundation of society being rooted on revelation from God and leaders he appoints.
Is lashing an issue of secularism vs "other"?  Doesn't seem so...and how would what you see as the ineffectiveness of secular punishments make lashing a good idea in the first place, for any crime, in any country?
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RE: Muslim Imam calls for Homosexual death 3 weeks before pulse nigh club shooting - by The Grand Nudger - June 28, 2016 at 9:38 pm

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