(June 29, 2016 at 2:08 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Guns aren't our problem. Ardent (i.e. irrational) gunners are our problem
(June 29, 2016 at 7:33 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote:(June 29, 2016 at 2:33 pm)RetiredArmy Wrote: An ardent supporter of gun rights, one that follows the law very strictly, always being responsible with their firearms, is not the problem. That is simply a law-abiding citizen who speaks what they believe. The problem is useless legislation and illogical banter about the danger inanimate objects pose.
You give two cases. Perfect gunner and "useless legislation". Are there no other scenarios? Drunks with guns and laws that have been shown to work?
The point of my reply was to refute your linking ardent support of firearms with irrationality. I have provided your quote for review. By definition, an ardent supporter (one who supports with enthusiasm and passion) would not risk what they cherish with such stupid behavior as being one of those "drunks with guns."
Of course there are effective regulations regarding firearms. Just like any section of governance, there are good parts, and there are really damn stupid parts. I am referring to the stupid parts. The parts which are an attempt to illogically go after the lawful gun owner while masquerading as meaningful legislation. I agree with the first part, guns are not the problem. People certainly -are- the problem, on both sides. The ardent supporter is the good guy, let's not confuse.
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