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Bullying is free speecb
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Bullying is free speecb
Bullying is free speech
come to think of it. If they used the term "Bullying" or tabooing it from politicals or discussions. It could be more accepted since hate speech is too vague
but intentionally bullying, i think i can understand that in terms of not belittling opposition and just win on points rather than using ad hominems.

Democratic party of Americans or American culture i think is pro bullying right wingers too much. I think they are just happy by calling them stuff like incest babies or that stuff.
So now Trump came in and used the exact same tactics. Problem is politicians dont suck its the people who shape a culture that do. If you treat people like scum, if you are not kind to others. This is what society is gonna look like, a society where being an asshole gives you a gold medal.

I will say Fox news as established news bullies more than CNN. But i think in terms of alternative platforms like TYT is pretty much on cake with that. Then of course there is those who bully them aswell.

So yeah...


If anyone dont mind this? Then i guess the classical bullying is group of people who gang up against a defenseless guy who did nothing wrong. Point i am saying.. If it wasnt for good childhood. I am saying it does something to you if society rewards this. Cultural values does matter to how you reflect and see people as
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Well this comment is delusional . The right invented political bullying the left just responded .
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(April 16, 2019 at 8:19 am)Amarok Wrote: Well this comment is delusional . The right invented political bullying the left just responded .

Well. To use an example.

Lets use Rodney King incident for police brutality in USA 1991. Here is how they could have responded.

"Stand out police station with a sign protesting and demanding justice" understandable, racism is never ok.

Now the stupid decision would be during a riot, kill innocent people who had nothing to do with the police. Not to mention encouraging thug crime aswell and saying anything against it... (RACIST)

Now a person with critical thinking who'd defend this would give reasons for why it happend, and dont look at it like they are all bad people just because one guy did it.

In either case. My point stand that as a culture. This is what you get when people find stuff that divides them or are not taught critical thinking. Bullying as free speech becomes more or less a thing (which i would generally oppose to make people talk about the issue than to trying to win warrior points in terms of human consideration)
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There's no free speech right to initiate violence. Incitement to riot is a crime, but it is not a valid excuse for rioting.
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(April 16, 2019 at 8:28 am)Rimi921 Wrote:
(April 16, 2019 at 8:19 am)Amarok Wrote: Well this comment is delusional . The right invented political bullying the left just responded .

Well. To use an example.

Lets use Rodney King incident for police brutality in USA 1991. Here is how they could have responded.

"Stand out police station with a sign protesting and demanding justice" understandable, racism is never ok.

Now the stupid decision would be during a riot, kill innocent people who had nothing to do with the police. Not to mention encouraging thug crime aswell and saying anything against it... (RACIST)

Now a person with critical thinking who'd defend this would give reasons for why it happend, and dont look at it like they are all bad people just because one guy did it.

In either case. My point stand that as a culture. This is what you get when people find stuff that divides them or are not taught critical thinking. Bullying as free speech becomes more or less a thing (which i would generally oppose to make people talk about the issue than to trying to win warrior points in terms of human consideration)


I do get sick of fallacy of equivocation. 

You tell me what is wrong with standing up to a bully? No, I will not a apologize for calling the orange fuckface a bully. That piece of shit is using his office to dehumanize my neighbors whom are not violent or criminals. He has a vice president who shits on my cab driver who is gay. He shits on dead war heros. He has kissed the ass of dictators on the global stage. He has attacked his own intel and vilifies the free press.

That is not the behavior of a western society head of state. That is the behavior of a theocracy, fascist state and dictators.

You do NOT get to equate those standing up to a bully as being equal to being bullies themselves.
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People tend to forget that having the right to free speech doesn't exempt them from the consequences of said free speech.
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OP: Not quite sure what you're talking about but.........

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Perhaps on some level, politics has more or less devolved into bullying, maybe it was always like that on some level, but to single out the Democrats (especially when we’ve got a Republican president who’s acted like a wrestling heel from the day he announced his campaign) is fundamentally dishonest. Especially as the Republican strategy has essentially become bullying more naked than it’s been since the first Klan.

And taking the LA riots without even bothering to take into account the racial tensions that remain to this day (and the numerous race riots that happened long before that, many of which were largely committed by white people on black people; see The Knick, Season 1, Episode 7. It’s about a real race riot in 1900 where a black man kills a cop who tried to arrest his wife for soliciting and it causes a full-blown riot with white people looking for black blood, and City Hall refusing to protect those citizens most in danger, and bear in mind, this is more or less what happened IRL except I don’t think the cop propositioned her himself) is fundamentally dishonest. It doesn’t take a genius to show that the riots (especially lashing out against people who had nothing to do with Rodney King’s beating, including Korean convenience stores) were not only immoral, but counterproductive, but your analysis leaves out crucial parts of the narrative.
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Free speech is free speech. Not all free speech is nice. That's about as far as I can agree with you.
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RE: Bullying is free speecb
(April 16, 2019 at 8:28 am)Rimi921 Wrote:
(April 16, 2019 at 8:19 am)Amarok Wrote: Well this comment is delusional . The right invented political bullying the left just responded .

Well. To use an example.

Lets use Rodney King incident for police brutality in USA 1991. Here is how they could have responded.

"Stand out police station with a sign protesting and demanding justice" understandable, racism is never ok.

Now the stupid decision would be during a riot, kill innocent people who had nothing to do with the police. Not to mention encouraging thug crime aswell and saying anything against it... (RACIST)

Now a person with critical thinking who'd defend this would give reasons for why it happend, and dont look at it like they are all bad people just because one guy did it.

In either case. My point stand that as a culture. This is what you get when people find stuff that divides them or are not taught critical thinking. Bullying as free speech becomes more or less a thing (which i would generally oppose to make people talk about the issue than to trying to win warrior points in terms of human consideration)
Which doesn't back your point nor refutes mine .

(April 16, 2019 at 8:41 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Perhaps on some level, politics has more or less devolved into bullying, maybe it was always like that on some level, but to single out the Democrats (especially when we’ve got a Republican president who’s acted like a wrestling heel from the day he announced his campaign) is fundamentally dishonest. Especially as the Republican strategy has essentially become bullying more naked than it’s been since the first Klan.

And taking the LA riots without even bothering to take into account the racial tensions that remain to this day (and the numerous race riots that happened long before that, many of which were largely committed by white people on black people; see The Knick, Season 1, Episode 7. It’s about a real race riot in 1900 where a black man kills a cop who tried to arrest his wife for soliciting and it causes a full-blown riot with white people looking for black blood, and City Hall refusing to protect those citizens most in danger, and bear in mind, this is more or less what happened IRL except I don’t think the cop propositioned her himself) is fundamentally dishonest. It doesn’t take a genius to show that the riots (especially lashing out against people who had nothing to do with Rodney King’s beating, including Korean convenience stores) were not only immoral, but counterproductive, but your analysis leaves out crucial parts of the narrative.
Indeed the riots were not about one incident with one organization it was a frustration within the city that had been boiling for decades .
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