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For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
(June 29, 2016 at 9:23 pm)RetiredArmy Wrote: The point of my reply was to refute your linking ardent support of firearms with irrationality.  I have provided your quote for review.  By definition, an ardent supporter (one who supports with enthusiasm and passion) would not risk what they cherish with such stupid behavior as being one of those "drunks with guns." 

Well, doesn't that really depend on the supporter? If one is under the impression that gun ownership is some immutable reality of their country's code of ethics that can never be changed- as many particularly ardent gun supporters do- then they could act with impunity, without anything to risk.

Now, I'm not saying that all people with interest in guns are liable to act that way, but then, that's sort of the thing with a deadly weapon: it really only takes a moment of inattention or irrational thinking to do something very hard to take back. It's not so much "X group of people act irrationally," as it is "X group of people are human beings liable to the same emotional and personality issues as everyone else, while also in contact with deadly weapons." That's a concern, the question is, how do we address it? #notallgunowners might be a perfectly valid statement, but somehow it's still not encompassing the issue, is it?

Quote:Of course there are effective regulations regarding firearms.  Just like any section of governance, there are good parts, and there are really damn stupid parts.  I am referring to the stupid parts.  The parts which are an attempt to illogically go after the lawful gun owner while masquerading as meaningful legislation.  I agree with the first part, guns are not the problem.  People certainly -are- the problem, on both sides.  The ardent supporter is the good guy, let's not confuse.

What do you mean "go after" the lawful gun owner? What does that legislation look like, to you? And what would you consider good regulation for firearms that might improve the situation as it stands, too?
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For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 22, 2016 at 12:55 pm
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