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For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
Back on topic, I'd ask in general, why do 'pro-safety' people view banning all guns as bad? Wouldn't that be the best way to deal with gun violence? Isn't that how they've done it in a lot of other countries? Why don't people own that idea?

I just want to slightly reduce gun violence, not get rid of it altogether. I just want it to be slightly more inconvenient for criminals to get guns, not make it as hard as possible. I just want mass shooters to only be able to kill 41 people, not 50.

Do you see how that doesn't seem like a believable set of end goals?

I almost think it would be better if the pro safety people were explicit and said we want to ban them all, but we know you don't, so let's compromise. Instead, it seems like there are these disingenuous 'common sense' 'fixing the gun problem' proposals, that are still going to result in gun violence, that is still going to be something that needs to be fixed.

If someone had a practical solution to banning guns, I might be on board with that. It would be costly, but it would be a real solution with real benefits. Whereas, no new AR-15's and you can't put more than 14 bullets in a clip, seems arbitrary and pointless.
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For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 22, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 22, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 1:46 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 23, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 23, 2016 at 2:38 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 23, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 23, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 23, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 22, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Jackalope - June 22, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Rhondazvous - June 23, 2016 at 11:00 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 22, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Minimalist - June 23, 2016 at 12:15 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Cecelia - June 23, 2016 at 1:29 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 4:03 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 23, 2016 at 9:45 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Rhondazvous - June 23, 2016 at 10:02 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 10:22 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 12:43 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 23, 2016 at 12:25 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 23, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 24, 2016 at 8:05 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 8:55 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Tiberius - June 23, 2016 at 2:38 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Tiberius - June 23, 2016 at 2:58 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Tiberius - June 23, 2016 at 3:35 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 23, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Tiberius - June 23, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 24, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 24, 2016 at 7:02 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Disciple - June 24, 2016 at 7:25 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 24, 2016 at 8:55 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 24, 2016 at 7:29 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 24, 2016 at 7:46 am
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 24, 2016 at 7:44 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 24, 2016 at 8:20 am
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 24, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 24, 2016 at 12:45 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 24, 2016 at 11:54 am
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 24, 2016 at 1:42 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 24, 2016 at 4:21 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 24, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 24, 2016 at 4:53 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 24, 2016 at 4:51 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 24, 2016 at 5:24 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 24, 2016 at 6:37 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 24, 2016 at 9:44 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 24, 2016 at 9:57 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 25, 2016 at 12:43 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 7:17 am
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 25, 2016 at 12:55 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 25, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by RetiredArmy - June 25, 2016 at 11:45 am
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 25, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 10:50 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by RetiredArmy - June 25, 2016 at 12:47 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 12:49 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by RetiredArmy - June 25, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 12:52 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by RetiredArmy - June 25, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 1:05 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 2:28 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 4:27 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 25, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 4:48 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 25, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 25, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by RetiredArmy - June 26, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 26, 2016 at 11:25 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 26, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 26, 2016 at 6:26 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by RetiredArmy - June 28, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Minimalist - June 28, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 2:03 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 28, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 2:55 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 28, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 28, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 5:02 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 8:06 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 28, 2016 at 5:42 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 28, 2016 at 8:15 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 29, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 8:46 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 28, 2016 at 9:03 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 7:40 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 11:18 am
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 29, 2016 at 11:13 am
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 29, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 11:48 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by RetiredArmy - June 29, 2016 at 12:05 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 12:28 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 29, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 12:42 pm
For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by KUSA - June 29, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by RetiredArmy - June 29, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 29, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 29, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 29, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 2:08 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 29, 2016 at 7:33 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Esquilax - June 29, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Esquilax - June 30, 2016 at 11:50 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 30, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 30, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 12:26 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Esquilax - June 30, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 30, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 30, 2016 at 12:12 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 30, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 2:48 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 2:50 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 3:42 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 3:09 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Gawdzilla - June 30, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by henryp - June 30, 2016 at 7:11 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 30, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 30, 2016 at 8:36 pm
RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying. - by Brian37 - June 30, 2016 at 8:57 pm

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