For Americans tired of NRA bullying.

[Brian37]

Back on topic, I'd ask in general, why do 'pro-safety' people view banning all guns as bad?  Wouldn't that be the best way to deal with gun violence?  Isn't that how they've done it in a lot of other countries?  Why don't people own that idea?

I just want to slightly reduce gun violence, not get rid of it altogether.  I just want it to be slightly more inconvenient for criminals to get guns, not make it as hard as possible.  I just want mass shooters to only be able to kill 41 people, not 50.

Do you see how that doesn't seem like a believable set of end goals?

I almost think it would be better if the pro safety people were explicit and said we want to ban them all, but we know you don't, so let's compromise.  Instead, it seems like there are these disingenuous 'common sense' 'fixing the gun problem' proposals, that are still going to result in gun violence, that is still going to be something that needs to be fixed.

If someone had a practical solution to banning guns, I might be on board with that.  It would be costly, but it would be a real solution with real benefits.  Whereas, no new AR-15's and you can't put more than 14 bullets in a clip, seems arbitrary and pointless.

It isn't that we view banning all guns as bad or good, but unrealistic. In a perfect world I don't know any sane human that would value fear of being harmed vs wanting to perpetually living in paranoia. I don't doubt the gun advocates think they are doing the right thing. What I do doubt is their perception of reality in the real world. A lot like we all doubt claims of Allah or Yahweh or Jesus being a cure all for humanity. More guns is not a solution. I simply wish those who think it is would see, that is not a call to ban all guns, but merely saying stop seeking utopias like worship of a religion or holy book.