(July 5, 2016 at 7:33 pm)Veritas_Vincit Wrote: I'm saying they could have been mistaken, they could have made it all up, they could have had other reasons for telling the story, there could have been a gradual shift of embellishing the facts. I've seen Derren Brown do shit I can't explain - humans can be fooled. It's also possible for them to lie, and to deliberately deceive each other. Memory is unreliable, and humans are fallible. Not the mention how comparatively ignorant and backward people were 2000 years ago, how superstitious belief in supposed magic was rife.
Were they lying? Who knows. Is what they wrote an accurate account of the facts? I don't believe it for a second.
There was no gradual shift since we have early manuscripts from different sources that point to the sources agreeing with each other which gets us quite close to the originals. Why don't you believe they were telling the truth? Do you have a list of facts that lead us to believe they were lying?