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RE: Lucifer

July 10, 2016 at 9:07 am (This post was last modified: July 10, 2016 at 9:07 am by robvalue.)

Loaded terms. We're not literally "programmed", at least there is no evidence that this is the case.

We are good at surviving because we're descended from animals that survived. Self selecting, natural selection. We have adapted to our environment over huge numbers of generations.

Like madog says, if you actually want to learn about this and aren't just throwing out what you think are "gotcha" questions, the information is readily available. Study evolution.

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