(July 13, 2016 at 3:54 pm)TruthSeeking Wrote:(July 13, 2016 at 1:24 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Hey a message from the west? Could both Jews and Muslims stop making it about race or nationality and accept that religion is the cause of you divisions. I could care less who started it at this point.It's more complicated that it seems to be. Generally I know the entire world is deluded by the media, There is massive of people who hates Jews no matter what. I'm not going to justify our deeds, we are doing the best to live in peace. The Palestinians are motivated only by hate and revenge.
When Jews say "look at what they did" I agree. When Palestinians say "look at what they did" I agree. I think Jews and Muslims need to call them religions because that is what they are RELIGIONS. And both the holy texts of either teach the followers that they are entitled to that same land and that both are God's Chosen people". You can call "Arab" a race all you want, and you can call "Jew" a race all you want, but to me, that is a dodge.
Babies are not born with a religion, or even a mere "tradition", those things get taught to the kid, as they grow up, both Jews and Muslims. Hate, also is not born in a baby, that too, is also handed down from the parents, on both sides. There was prior polytheism in that same land prior to either religion existing. Trace our species back far enough, we all started out in Africa 200,000 years ago when there were no written religions or boarders. There also was no religion 4 billion years ago when the planet first started forming. And there was no sun or galaxy at all 13.8 billion years ago.
Neither Jews or Muslims are going anywhere, but I really am done with choosing sides in that conflict at this point. All I am seeing is my fellow humans needlessly murder each other over old books.
Thanks, for your consideration, but that also applies to Palestinians as well.
In 1947, the UN voted for the idea of two countries for 2 peoples. Immediately with the announcement the war is began, our Independence war. since then they can't accept our existence at all. I am not even talking about peace, just accept us as people who want to live in this land.
It's too easy and convenient to judge everyone and think like that, come here and live here one month.
We have not choice but protect our self.
Well Stim is right though, this isn't the place to bring it up. I shouldn't have.
Welcome in any case.