Something I never understood in relation to straight men

[FatAndFaithless]

You're trying so hard to not define perverse.  How about defining 'dirty'?

And are you seriously under the impression that homosexuals didn't exist 2000 years ago?  There's nothing 'new' about them.

Sex with animals has the same ancient history, but less intense. Dirty - immoral. But societies moral tastes are constantly changing.

For the love of God can you please define "dirty" or "perverse."  If you're going to keep using those words do us the courtesy of defining them.