(July 20, 2016 at 6:03 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Did we as British citizens get a chance to vote for Juncker?
Directly? No. Indirectly? Yes. Juncker was elected as President in the same way David Cameron was elected Prime Minister. His party chose him as their candidate for President, and then the party won the most seats. You may have not cast a vote for Juncker personally, but did you cast a vote for Cameron either?
Ironically, Juncker was elected to President via a far more democratic method than the current UK PM, who was only elected as an MP, and then got the PM job basically by default.
Quote:Tell you what was democratic. The referendum. And the first thing the supposed liberal democracy loving lefties did was protest it because people are too stupid to know what they're voting for and because they didn't get what they wanted.
inb4 "hurrr democracy means we can protest", doesn't mean what you're protesting for isn't the reversal of democracy.
The referendum was democratic, I agree. However, that doesn't mean protesting the result is undemocratic. Technically speaking, it was a non-binding referendum. There's a legal case that might null the result entirely on technical grounds as well (if it's found that only Parliament can invoke Article 50).
Also, just because something is democratic doesn't necessarily mean it is fair. The "leave" campaign perpetuated lies and misled the public in the run up to the vote, not something that is fair in any sense of the word. In addition, there's an argument that any big change to the country shouldn't require a simple majority, especially when the voter turnout was 71.8%.