RE: UK to leave EU
July 26, 2016 at 5:33 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2016 at 5:37 pm by Napoléon.)
(July 26, 2016 at 4:47 pm)Mathilda Wrote: So how else are you going to determine whether a movement is fascist if not by comparing their techniques and what they preach to known fascist movements? This is you basically in denial. Tell me which items on this list do not apply to Trump or UKIP and I will be argue that they do within the current political and social landscape.
I'm not in denial lol, I just think there's a big difference between calling Trump a fascist and Mussolini a fascist. For you that is evidently not so but it does not mean I am in denial.
Let's start with 'inciting violence for political gain to the extent the law allows'. That should be a good one.
Quote:Association fallacy? That's like complaining that someone's only saying it's gold because it's coloured gold and has the same number of protons as gold. What defining characteristics would you look for before classing something as a fascist movement?
You simply saying they're fascist doesn't make them so. I can say this chocolate bar is actually a golden chocolate bar with the same atomic structure of a golden chocolate bar, and then give a description of the atomic structure of a golden chocolate bar. It doesn't mean that the double decker I'm holding is made of bloody gold.
Quote:You see, you've just made this list up based on your own biases. Whereas the list I presented wasn't made up by me but are observed and recorded characteristics of all fascist movements by historians. Your post is basically on a par of saying "Well you stink too so nerr".
Yes that's exactly what it was on par with. In case you didn't notice I was satirizing the list you posted.
And I think you'll find the list I presented wasn't made up by me, but are observed and recorded characteristics of left wing Corbynites, thank you very much!
Quote:The book I posted earlier doesn't just describe what fascism is, it also documents all the different fascist movements that have existed in Europe and the world and discussed why some were successful and how most failed.
I give as much of a shit about the book you posted as you do about Jeremy Corbyn.
Quote:One of the defining characteristics of a successful fascist movement is that they need to be given power by the right wing conservative government and this happens because they fear a greater enemy (normally communism and rebellion of the work force). Ironically, even though David Cameron may have screwed the country by giving UKIP what they wanted, he also made UKIP completely irrelevant now that Brexit won the vote.
Ofcourse UKIP is irrelevent you twonk. Their work is done that's why. They achieved what they set out to do. Nigel Farage did at least. Your own biases are revealed precisely by how much you want to portray a narrative of negativity on the whole Brexit issue, nevermind UKIP.