(July 29, 2016 at 12:48 pm)Esquilax Wrote: 1: Even if you're correct, that still makes you a worse asshole, so you really have no reason to be smug.the smugness comes from years of being called all sorts of stuff and you guys just now starting to get it.
Quote:2: "You do it too!" is a logical fallacy, not an argument."I do it too" is the other 1/2 of the argument you guys still don't get. I do it because without it 1/3 of the world starves and dies. THEY NEED These Slave wage jobs. Is it the best thing for the planet? who knows, however it is the only societal model we have that has ever worked. That being the case until we can develop slave/cylon robots, we have to have a slave class, as the world societies all operate on a big pyramid scheme.
Quote:3: Complicity in something we're against, where that complicity comes as a result of buying into a complex, multi-tiered system of interconnecting business partnerships over multiple countries, the nature of which is so complex it takes teams of people working for each business to properly keep track of, in which the thing we're supposedly complicit in is actively and consistently hidden from view by the machinations of immense corporate forces pouring sums of money so large many of us will never get close to seeing them in our lifetimes into that endeavor is not hypocrisy. It's a simple acknowledgement that there are limits to what we are capable of keeping track of. It's simply dishonest conflation to pretend that this is the same as active complicity in slavery... which is kind of your stock in trade, so it's hardly surprising. If you didn't have oversimplification of complex geopolitical ideas that you both don't understand and aren't particularly interested in beyond how they can be used to leverage your own sense of smug satisfaction, what would you have?Actually it is complicity and hypocrisy... the web site i linked to earlier is just one of dozens that put responsibility of modern slaves onto western society. There's even a test one can take that estimates how many slaves were used in providing your current lifestyle. I somehow use 53 i personally think that number is high, but on the other hand I see it as my money is being used to keep 53 people from starving to death..
Which is the other side of the coin. If ALL slavery ended where then would this revenue/housing come from? Even if burney was elected i don't think raising taxes on the rich nor educating everyone will make a dent in this problem, because if all the slaves are gone and everyone is getting paid a fair wage then so go the rich.