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If free will was not real
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RE: If free will was not real
July 29, 2016 at 8:07 pm
(July 29, 2016 at 4:07 pm)quip Wrote: Any action you propose to take remains contingent upon a near infinite set of circumstances. The very capacity to exist, to facilitate a conscious will itself was brought about by action of your biological parents (beyond your control/influence). Likewise all willed action hitherto; conditions anterior to your decision to enjoy ice cream exist far beyond your past experiences of it. This can hardly be considered "free" ....perhaps only in the limited, proximate sense.
As I said, free will is the expression of the personhood-- including memories and feelings. DNA, life history and hormones are all included in personhood, and do not need to be free in order to establish free will. It's obvious that anything with a nature will act according to that nature, and unless one is eternally unchanging, that nature will itself be a product of some kind of causal chain.

Even in Christianity, we couldn't have a free will separated from causality-- God caused us to exist, and we were given a certain nature, and we act on it.

So there's no kind of free will other than the "limited, proximate" kind we're talking about-- that there is no impediment or compulsion which prevents us from manifesting the intent of the person in the world around us.
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If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 2:40 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:05 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - July 9, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:06 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:08 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - July 9, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Banjo - August 1, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by quip - August 1, 2016 at 5:01 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:10 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:14 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:16 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:12 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:12 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:23 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:24 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:26 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:26 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:28 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:29 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:33 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:35 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:39 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:41 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:43 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:43 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:47 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:48 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:48 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:49 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:55 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:50 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 3:52 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 3:57 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 4:01 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 4:06 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 4:12 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 4:14 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 4:14 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 4:15 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 4:18 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 4:17 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 8, 2016 at 4:19 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 8, 2016 at 4:43 am
RE: If free will was not real - by quip - July 9, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by brewer - July 9, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - July 9, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 9, 2016 at 1:14 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 16, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 16, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 16, 2016 at 1:26 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 16, 2016 at 1:26 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 16, 2016 at 1:28 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 16, 2016 at 1:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - July 16, 2016 at 1:35 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2016 at 8:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by henryp - July 26, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - July 26, 2016 at 11:55 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - July 26, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - July 26, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by quip - July 27, 2016 at 4:14 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by quip - July 27, 2016 at 10:52 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by quip - July 28, 2016 at 4:48 pm
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RE: If free will was not real - by quip - July 29, 2016 at 3:55 am
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RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 1:21 pm
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RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 6:13 pm
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RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 17, 2016 at 8:17 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 8:31 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 17, 2016 at 11:16 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 12:21 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:14 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 1:24 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2016 at 1:30 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 1:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 18, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:10 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 7:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 10:38 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2016 at 1:34 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 1:52 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 1:55 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 1:59 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 18, 2016 at 2:00 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2016 at 2:43 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 18, 2016 at 2:45 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 6:01 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 6:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 6:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 7:36 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 19, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 12:48 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 11:44 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 2:49 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:15 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 3:44 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 11:29 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:42 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:44 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 5:04 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 5:19 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:11 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 12:21 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 6:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 7:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 8:18 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 8:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 8:34 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 11:49 am
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 1:34 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 1:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 3:51 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 3:14 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 4:13 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 4:47 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 5:25 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:20 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 8:42 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 9:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 9:38 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 10:54 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 10:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 11:58 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Whateverist - August 20, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 12:47 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 1:53 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 1:50 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 1:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 20, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 2:31 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:57 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 4:06 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by RozKek - August 20, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by J a c k - August 20, 2016 at 5:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 20, 2016 at 5:59 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Angrboda - August 20, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 20, 2016 at 10:32 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Arkilogue - August 20, 2016 at 10:40 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:05 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:14 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 6:17 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:19 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:24 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:25 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:27 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:28 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:33 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 12:35 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:55 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 12:57 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 12:59 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 1:01 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 1:02 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 1:03 am
RE: If free will was not real - by account_inactive - August 21, 2016 at 1:21 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 1:22 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 1:47 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2016 at 1:48 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 9:11 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 5:32 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 5:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Angrboda - August 21, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 8:28 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 22, 2016 at 2:22 am
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 21, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 7:59 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 8:14 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 8:54 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 9:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - August 21, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 9:03 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - August 21, 2016 at 9:07 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Silver - August 21, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Aegon - August 21, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by bennyboy - August 21, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: If free will was not real - by Gemini - August 22, 2016 at 2:38 am
RE: If free will was not real - by Excited Penguin - August 21, 2016 at 9:12 pm

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