If free will was not real

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Ahh, you're correct. I forgot about it my bad. 


However, I thought about this again.


Now we're back to adressing the causal chain issue. You're playing a role in your decisions, if you want to you can say that, but let's say you decided to go for decision B out of all the decisions. Why you decided to go for decision B isn't ultimately your choice because it's in the causal chain i.e your neurons moved in a certain caused way causing you to decide decision B and your neurons are governed by classical physics in other words they're determined and like said there's no free if it's already determined. If you cannot break it then you cannot have free will. Now you're the one contradicting yourself. You can't have a free will where you're the one ultimately deciding while at the same time you can't break the causal chain, it's nonsensical. Yes you can decide, but it's not free aslong as you cannot break the causal chain, and ultimately decide for yourself.

A compatibilist can say we have free will and can't break the causal chain, but the free he speaks about is e.g that no one's holding a gun to his head but his will is instead constrained by classical physics and the causal chain. 

Tell me, how are you free if you're already determined to do what you're going to do something? How can you possibly change something that has been determined? If you say you can then you're implying that you can break the causal chain, but you can't.

All this boils down to is you not willing to accept the application of certain reasonable definitions of freedom other than that one definition that you have in mind.

In any case, your will nor your freedom is free. In any case they're determined. In any case they are governed by the laws of physics, in this case classical physics, they're fully causal and therefore every single millimeter you move, every single knee jerk reaction you get, every single step you take is determined and you cannot do anything to do otherwise. How are you free if you're constrained by the laws of physics itself?

Oh, you're free because no one is holding a gun to your head. No. Every action you do is determined, there is no free if it's determined. How is it possible to be free if it's already determined?