RE: If free will was not real
July 31, 2016 at 4:01 pm
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2016 at 4:01 pm by RozKek.)
(July 31, 2016 at 3:52 pm)Irrational Wrote:(July 31, 2016 at 3:27 pm)RozKek Wrote: In any case, your will nor your freedom is free. In any case they're determined. In any case they are governed by the laws of physics, in this case classical physics, they're fully causal and therefore every single millimeter you move, every single knee jerk reaction you get, every single step you take is determined and you cannot do anything to do otherwise. How are you free if you're constrained by the laws of physics itself?
Oh, you're free because no one is holding a gun to your head. No. Every action you do is determined, there is no free if it's determined. How is it possible to be free if it's already determined?
Because if you want to go with a reasonable definition of "free", free and determined are not opposites of each other.
If it's already determined that you're going to eat chicken for breakfast there's not a single thing you can do to not eat chicken for breakfast. How are you free in that situation? Every decision you're going to make regarding that will have been determined, how are you free in that case? Don't say "Well I decided that for myself, and no one held a gun to my head" because even then you're constrained by the laws of physics. You're free from the gun but you're not free from causality. You make the decisions, but they aren't free.