RE: The "Cultural Context" Excuse
August 3, 2016 at 2:39 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2016 at 2:40 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(August 1, 2016 at 10:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So you're fine with calling collective punishment just?
In the case of Noah, God warned them of the flood for 120 years before it happened.
In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah God said he would spare the city if he could find just 10 righteous people living there.
Quote:Genesis 18
22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the Lord.
23 Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?
24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it?
25 Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
26 The Lord said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”
27 Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes,
28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five people?”
“If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”
29 Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”
He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”
30 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”
He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”
31 Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?”
He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”
32 Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”
He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
33 When the Lord had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home.
In the case of Nineveh they repented and God spared them, see how it works? The moral is do what God tells you to do. If God decided to take his people up tomorrow and destroy the earth, are you going to call that unjust too? after all the warning you've been given?
(August 1, 2016 at 11:00 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(August 1, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: God did originally make man and woman equal.
Did you forget that the woman was cursed in the garden of Eden so that man was made to rule over her?
Mm... So woman suggests man do something. Man does it. Woman gets punished. Woman gets enslaved. God is not only unjust, but also has a penchant for misogyny, apparently.
Adam was doing fine for at least 1000 years before Eve showed up...
(August 1, 2016 at 11:00 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Also, pretty unjust (cruel/evil is a more accurate description, actually) to subject an entire population of innocent women to life-long sexual assault in the name of the perceived wrong doing of one human.
Lifelong sexual assault? what?
(August 1, 2016 at 11:41 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(August 1, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: If we are talking legality, then legally a corporation is considered a person... what's your point?
I gave you the medical definition, which defined a fetus as "unborn offspring", human offspring ARE children, but I see you opt to ignore medical definitions when it's convenient.
Just so were clear, are you saying that an unborn has no right to live? By what authority does one make this determination?
None of it changes the stupidity of being pro life.
It amuses me that you said I was trying to argue semantics but it's you who is arguing semantics.
Yes absolutely no right. It's the mother's decision.
So you admit that an unborn child has no rights and the mother can destroy it if she wants to...
That statement is why you're a hypocrite.
