(July 30, 2016 at 2:03 pm)RozKek Wrote:(July 29, 2016 at 8:10 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I gather, from your post, and a number of posts from others, that what is being expounded on here, is that choices are entirely a mechanistic process brought about by physical forces within the brain. That given X in you will get Y out (with a very complicated equation in between). Wouldn't this also apply to any logic or rational you are using to determine this? If what you are saying is true, then it would seem that you also have to free will to say whether yours or benny's logic is right or wrong. Or that you can say it, but have no way to determine if one is more correct than the other. Would you agree?
No, we're both just evaluating, thinking critically and logically based upon our knowledge (even that isn't ultimately our decision) it doesn't require free will, why would it? I don't know if I actually answered your question, I didn't really get what you're saying. I don't need free will to use logic and be rational, it's just happening in my brain and we can then evaluate or determine which one is correct by, well, using logic, critical thinking etc although even that is ultimately beyond our control.
Sorry for the delay in the response. But isn't the critical thinking, evaluation or determining, also just part of the same process? If these things are beyond your control, and there is no reason from their causes, for why they should be correct, then how can you trust them? Even as you write, you speak of initiating these things, which suggests will and something outside of just physical forces.
It would seem that any suggestion to think critically, or even claiming to do so, is rather pointless, and inconsequential.
