If free will was not real

[RoadRunner79]

Sorry for the delay in the response.   But isn't the critical thinking, evaluation or determining, also just part of the same process?  If these things are beyond your control, and there is no reason from their causes, for why they should be correct, then how can you trust them?  Even as you write, you speak of initiating these things, which suggests will and something outside of just physical forces. 

It would seem that any suggestion to think critically, or even claiming to do so, is rather pointless, and inconsequential.

It's /debate for me, this is leading nowhere, I'd rather spend my time doing other stuff. Sorry, I myself don't like leaving a debate, so this is a bit hypocritical of me, however this time it's enough for me. 

But anyway, I can't help myself: Yes all of the thinking is also determined. I can trust them because my evaluation is based around facts, science and such. It's just none of it was my choice, the process of the evaluation and such, the knowledge I've received, nothing is. However, there is still a correct answer and one of us must be the closest to the correct answer and I believe I am correct mainly because as said, my evaluation, critical thinking etc has so far been based on facts and science and my definition of free will hasn't been limited to only the everyday life, I'm taking into account as many factors as possible and it seems that one factor is cancelling out all the other factors or there is actually/ultimately only one factor. I haven't afaik proposed anything that is not credible, or just pulled out of thin air. It doesn't make a difference if the process of evaluation and critical thinking is free or not, it's the same process.

Anyway, this is /debate for me, feel free to ask these same questions and continue the debate with someone else.

I can understand, if you don't want to discuss (sometimes life takes precedence)  however, I don't think you have done much to support your claim, more than just reassert it.  I think that issue is, that our evaluation, critical thinking, or assessment of the facts is based on the same thing as is being discussed concerning free will.  You are telling me of all the things you are doing, but that is what is under question.   If they are the results of purely physical necessity, that does necessarily yield a logical or even epistemologically valid result.   You can evaluate the process, about which you came to this conclusion, but then again, you are going to come to one physically necessary conclusion, that doesn't require that it is logical.  Even in acquiring the knowledge, with which your are comparing, you will accept or reject this knowledge, completely out of your control, and based on physics not logic (according to what you are proposing).  

I would agree, that it would seem likely that one of us, is more accurate to reality in this regard.   The question is, can we think about this critically, and is it even possible for us to change our minds or assess it in another way.  I don't know what this one factor is  you think you have which trumps everything else.  However, I think that you need to apply some logic, along with your science (if it's within your ability)