(August 4, 2016 at 4:57 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: At some point you'll come to the realization that YOU believe the universe either appeared out of nothing or has always existed; either way, which belief is crazier? Giants, or a self existing universe?
Asks the guy that believes in a "self-existing" man in the sky...
I actually don't claim to know how the universe began, because I've actually read science books and know that the universe's origins are difficult for us to even conceptualize, let alone understand. But yes, I find the universe having always existed much easier to believe in than a magic man in the sky drowning nearly everything on earth because there were giants running around.
(August 4, 2016 at 4:57 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: By creating a creature able to act of it's own free will, how is that so hard to understand?
Because even if we have free will(which you can't prove), god would have known exactly how everything was going to turn out. What you're saying is god had certain intentions, could see that those intentions would not come to fruition yet decided to go ahead with his creation anyway, because free will. Then he blames t he whole mess on his creation despite the fact that he knew it was going to turn to shit before he created anyone and could have easily created a perfect world that didn't turn to shit, because apparently, this infinitely wise being values the ability to make a choice over little Suzie getting raped and murdered or little Timmy dying of cancer. If god didn't intend it to be this way, why did he go ahead with a plan that he knew was going to end up in a state he didn't intend?
What's hard to understand is that someone could be so gullible as to believe this nonsense.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell