(August 9, 2016 at 11:41 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote:(August 9, 2016 at 8:38 am)Drich Wrote: I guess you are trying to pair Jesus "knocking" with verse 26???
26 Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was, till it was light.
27 And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and, behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold.
Again, the Jews (as well as proper apologists) subdivide the books of the OT into three main subjects.
The Hebrew Bible is organized into three main sections: the Torah, or “Teaching,” also called the Pentateuch or the “Five Books of Moses”; the Neviʾim, or Prophets; and the Ketuvim, or Writings. It is often referred to as the Tanakh, a word combining the first letter from the names of each of the three main divisions.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-Bible
Judges is considered to be a book of 'writings' or more specifically a historical accounting of the time between moses and Christ.
So when 26 and 27 says the concubine fell/died at the door of her Master, it literally means a woman died on the door step of her owner after being raped to death by all those other men.
There was a literal rape that lasted all night, a literal concubine, a literal door and a literal death with a literal division of her body sent to 12 different places.
Again no prophecy found in a book of writings. Just the facts sir just the facts...
Now was Jesus trying to borrow from this story to illustrate a larger point? perhaps, the arguement could indeed be made, but again that does not make the story prophetic as that word is defined by the Jews of the time of judges nor in Christ's time.
The knocking refers to verse 22:
Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.
I don't know how you get the knocking out of verses 26-27.
Also there are prophecies in all books of the Bible, including the Torah. God promised Abraham that his semen would fill the sky, if that's not poetic prophecy then I don't know what is.
Again, this is a book of 'Writtings'/History NOT PROPHECY As such knocking on a door means to physically knock on a literal Door in a book of writtings.
did you ignore everything I wrote in favor of creating confusion as to be able to hang on to your argument?
Or do you not understand this is not considered prophecy because it did not come from a prophet and not found in a book a prophet wrote?
