Good source of climate change data

[popeyespappy]

Well Cup Cake, I posted the link not so much as something to discuss but as a data source for others.

With all due respect this isn't the proper place to make shameless plugs, you started a thread, I'm expecting you to follow-through now and start the debate about any given topic matter relating to general science. You picked climate change data. The ball's in your court.

That’s right. I started a thread with the intention of sharing information. To the best of my knowledge that’s not against the rules of this forum. Part of the information available at the site I linked to is thousands of pages of data that is being prepared for policy makers. It includes not only summaries of the current scientific consensus on global warming but also potential impacts and suggestions as to how to proceed in the future. As a global warming skeptic who is not happy with your government’s policy decisions concerning global warming, I would think you should be interested in what those policy makers are being told. Apparently you’re not though and would prefer to simply whine and cry about it.

I would however be happy to address any specific evidence backed claims you care to make about anthropic global warming. I don’t know what good that would do though because everything you’ve ever had to say on the subject has already been thoroughly refuted in recent threads on this forum.

Then you obviously haven't even bothered to read my posts. I haven't presented anything that could be refuted or supported.

There’s a thread in this forum not too far from here where you claim, “Oh well since we know the government's preference is to fund any support of global warming theory let's continue to ignore the giant Elephant in the room a little longer shall we?” right below a big picture of the sun. Void presented a bunch of data that showed that claim to be false. You promptly ignored it. You made the claim that instrument temperature has only been available since 1880, and that was not sufficient to provide a basis for claims of anthropogenic global warming. You totally ignore the fact that reliable paleoclimate data is available for the 400,000 years plus. You have also made an unsupported assertion that anything related to the IPCC is unreliable. All I can say about that is LOLOL!

I'm not the majority who are lobbying with the rest of the scientific consensus that global warming is occurring and human activities are chiefly responsible. That's a big fucking claim and all I've ever been presented with when I ask for proof why we must have carbon taxes is some statistical crap that would make my managers proud as opposed to a direct correlation that greenhouse gases are in fact forcing these climate feedbacks.

I also haven't been given a single peer reviewed paper on this, I don't know yet if this has gone through the process to determine if it's creditable or not. I looked and can't find them. Even if peer reviews were presented, you still must know this is a necessary but still not sufficient condition to presenting a scientific case for AGW. If neither of us can find these papers it demonstrates IPCC are not fundamentally serious about their position.

All I am is simply skeptical of anthropogenic climate change. :>

Sorry, it’s not my job to provide you with peer reviewed papers. However, if you want to make an evidence based specific claim that shows current global climate warming trends are caused by something other the anthropogenic greenhouse gasses, I’ll see what I can do.

Unlike Earth, Martian climate is driven primarily by dust and albedo.

We're not talking about climate change on other planets.

And if we are, Zen Badger is the link broken?

Zen Badger’s link was to an article about global warming on Mars. The inference being that if Mars is warming too and the only thing Earth and Mars have in common is the Sun the cause must be the Sun. I provided a link to the original article that served as a source for Zen’s article. I also provided an explanation of why the original conclusion that Mars was warming along with the Earth was flawed.

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Anthropogenic is usually taken to mean "caused by humans". Anthropic usually means "related to humans". Everything Anthropogenic is by definition Anthropic, but vast majority of things Anthropic can not be said to be Anthropogenic in the sense used in Anthropogenic climate change.

Guess I’ve been reading too many articles by anthropogenic global warming skeptics. That’s usually where I seen the term used as I used it.