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Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice?
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RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice?
(May 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm)diffidus Wrote: Atheism cannot, therefore, be ascerted based upon certain knowledge. Therefore, it follows that the truly honest position of any member of humanity is Agnostic. It is intellectual cowardice, on the part of Atheists, not to accept the rational conclusions that reason leads to - namely, that no definitive statement can be about the existence/or not of God, due to lack of knowledge.

I think the flaw in your argument is that you assume that the basic stance of atheism is that it's a fact that there are absolutely no gods whatsoever. While many atheists may think this, the basic idea of atheism is that an atheist just doesn't believe in any gods. That's not to say that we wouldn't believe in a god if one were shown to exist. Atheism is not asserted based on any knowledge, but usually asserted due to lack of evidence to the contrary. I am perfectly aware that there's no definitive proof one way or the other as to any god's existence, but until such proof is shown I must take the default position and say that I don't believe any gods exist. I don't, though, say that it's a fact that no gods exist.

Personally, I think that all agnostics are atheists. Without being able to know whether a god exists or not, the logical thing is to not believe any exist. I think a lot of agnostics are just afraid to call themselves atheists.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Welsh cake - May 10, 2011 at 4:43 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 4:56 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Gawdzilla - May 10, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - May 10, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Ace Otana - May 10, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - May 10, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 5:33 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 13, 2011 at 3:50 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Gawdzilla - May 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by bozo - May 10, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by bozo - May 10, 2011 at 6:12 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 6:20 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - May 10, 2011 at 6:31 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Rayaan - May 10, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - May 10, 2011 at 7:41 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Cinjin - May 11, 2011 at 3:25 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by theVOID - May 11, 2011 at 4:14 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Maria - May 11, 2011 at 6:33 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Tiberius - May 11, 2011 at 6:54 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Doubting Thomas - May 11, 2011 at 10:35 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - May 11, 2011 at 11:28 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by krazedkat - May 12, 2011 at 9:53 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Gawdzilla - May 12, 2011 at 11:43 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Eudaimonia - May 13, 2011 at 10:17 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - May 13, 2011 at 8:52 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 14, 2011 at 6:25 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - May 14, 2011 at 5:20 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 14, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Gawdzilla - May 14, 2011 at 4:28 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 14, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - May 15, 2011 at 12:37 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Arcturus - May 15, 2011 at 4:10 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Atheist Jew - June 10, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 11, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Atheist Jew - June 11, 2011 at 7:04 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 11, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Castle - June 11, 2011 at 2:52 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 13, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Castle - June 13, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Darth - June 14, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Castle - June 14, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Rhizomorph13 - June 13, 2011 at 12:42 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Atheist Jew - June 12, 2011 at 8:43 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by nazz1138 - June 13, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 14, 2011 at 12:30 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Castle - June 14, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 15, 2011 at 7:01 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Theistsbane - July 11, 2011 at 9:47 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Rhizomorph13 - July 11, 2011 at 10:45 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by thebigfudge - July 11, 2011 at 11:07 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - July 11, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by thebigfudge - July 11, 2011 at 12:44 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Ashendant - July 12, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by nelsots - August 16, 2011 at 1:47 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2011 at 2:19 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Godnose - August 16, 2011 at 9:00 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2011 at 2:05 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - August 17, 2011 at 12:32 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 11:20 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2011 at 8:36 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 11:22 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - August 20, 2011 at 5:18 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Faith No More - August 20, 2011 at 5:41 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - August 22, 2011 at 11:44 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - August 17, 2011 at 8:33 pm
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RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Polaris - September 21, 2012 at 1:55 am
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RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2012 at 3:12 am
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