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Minds and Events
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RE: Minds and Events
(August 15, 2016 at 10:28 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(August 15, 2016 at 7:56 am)fdesilva Wrote: Time like separated events.
 
These are events that are separated in space and time such that there is sufficient time for a beam of light from one event to have reached the second event.
 
Space-like separated events.
 
These are events that are separated in space and time such that light from any one event can never reach any of the other events. Thus simultaneous events are space-like separated. That is even 2 event occurring 0.0001 mm from each other in the same instant will be space-like separated.

Can never reach any of the other events?  You have a funny definition of what it means to be spatially separated.  Relativity redefines simultaneity effectively eliminating the traditional concept.  Thus, simultaneous events are not space-like separated, they are defined by relative motion.

In regards to the above
Simultaneous events are space-like separated, this is not hard to see as consider 2 events A and B .0001mm from each other.  Light from A cannot reach B or B to A do you agree?
This is not something I am stating for the first time here it is a well accepted fact from physics.


(August 15, 2016 at 7:56 am)fdesilva Wrote:  
3 Pivotal Argument
 
P1. Thus the events of U at a given instant is space-like separated.
P2. Perception connects these events.

Perception doesn't literally connect these events, it builds a representation of space in which two events are occurring.  As this representation isn't bound by the laws of space-time, it can be manipulated in real time to be whatever is required to represent multiple perceptions.

It is a representation of something outside of the brain yes, however it is build from events is it not? If so how are these events distributed in an instant in time?

(August 15, 2016 at 7:56 am)fdesilva Wrote: P3. Special relativity states that nothing physical (material) can connect space-like separated events.
C1. Therefore perception as it connects space-like separated events of U, cannot be physical. That is it is non physical or dualistic.

As noted, perception is a representation of the percipii, not the actual space-like separated events, therefore it is not bound by the laws of relativity.  The pivotal argument fails.  Moreover, the eye and the brains processing of U occur with a high degree of parallelism, which can create the appearance of simultaneity by generating near simultaneous results which are then incorporated into one representation of U.
In regards to the above
Again what is the representation built of in a given instant in time?
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Messages In This Thread
Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 14, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Grandizer - August 14, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by account_inactive - August 14, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by robvalue - August 14, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by robvalue - August 15, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by robvalue - August 16, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by downbeatplumb - August 14, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2016 at 1:39 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by brewer - August 14, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Angrboda - August 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 15, 2016 at 7:56 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Angrboda - August 15, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 15, 2016 at 7:35 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Angrboda - August 15, 2016 at 9:06 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 15, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Excited Penguin - August 14, 2016 at 4:20 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Faith No More - August 14, 2016 at 4:29 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by account_inactive - August 14, 2016 at 4:30 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Excited Penguin - August 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Faith No More - August 14, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Pat Mustard - August 14, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Whateverist - August 14, 2016 at 4:54 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Pat Mustard - August 14, 2016 at 5:02 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by bennyboy - August 14, 2016 at 5:50 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 19, 2016 at 2:07 am
RE: Minds and Events - by ignoramus - August 15, 2016 at 2:44 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 5:06 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Jackalope - August 15, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Minds and Events - by DLJ - August 15, 2016 at 4:51 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Pat Mustard - August 16, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Minds and Events - by fdesilva - August 16, 2016 at 6:41 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by chimp3 - August 15, 2016 at 5:44 am
RE: Minds and Events - by purplepurpose - August 15, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Minds and Events - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 6:04 am
RE: Minds and Events - by downbeatplumb - August 15, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Angrboda - August 15, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by downbeatplumb - August 15, 2016 at 3:35 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 5:31 pm
RE: Minds and Events - by Arkilogue - August 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm
Minds and Events - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2016 at 8:03 am

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