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Faith and achievement
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RE: Faith and achievement
(August 15, 2016 at 8:37 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(August 15, 2016 at 8:26 pm)Jesster Wrote: Alright, back to the definition. It's good form to use the most accurate word for what you are trying to describe. Trust is the most accurate word in this case. Faith only loosely hovers around the vicinity. They are similar words, but faith isn't quite the same. You can keep asserting it, but I'm not going to make the same stretch.
I'm telling you that the definition I'm using is drawn from a standard dictionary definition of the word "faith."  Do you really want me to link about 20 online dictionaries to make you stop picking at this?

Quote:This is still the case in your latest example. Trust works within the range of what you know is possible based on previous data. If you are confident based on what you know of the reality around you, it is trust, even if you are just trusting in yourself. Once you expand that trust beyond data that you have picked up in your experiences, only then are you relying on faith. This does not line up with your assertions.

I don't think you've bothered to read much of what I've said.  You are talking past me, but not addressing any of the specific examples.  But you announced upon your entry into this thread that you planned to answer without reading, didn't you?

My field of fucks is barren when it comes to what dictionary definition you are using. Dictionaries talk about common usage. That just means that people have started using the words as synonyms for far too long. I am saying that the closest word to your explanation is trust and faith is just a loose synonym that is more of a subset. I'm confused at your objection to the word trust. The point is that you are not using the word faith the same way that religions do. If you are just going to keep doing this, then I will move on and let you keep dancing in circles. I have better things to do.

And to your second comment there: not relevant.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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Messages In This Thread
Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 7:19 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 7:22 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 7:46 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 8:18 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 8:37 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 8:54 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 3:18 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 8:12 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2016 at 7:22 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2016 at 7:57 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 7:59 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 8:25 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 15, 2016 at 8:31 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by mlmooney89 - August 15, 2016 at 8:05 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 8:22 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2016 at 8:24 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Excited Penguin - August 15, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 15, 2016 at 8:39 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by brewer - August 15, 2016 at 10:35 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 12:00 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by Seraphina - August 15, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 2:20 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 3:06 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by brewer - August 16, 2016 at 7:55 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 8:17 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 8:58 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by Edwardo Piet - August 16, 2016 at 9:04 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by mediocrates - August 16, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 12:04 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 2:07 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 2:38 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 2:48 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Neo-Scholastic - August 16, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 16, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Neo-Scholastic - August 16, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Jesster - August 16, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 6:08 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by PETE_ROSE - August 16, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 6:41 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 16, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 17, 2016 at 1:15 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 17, 2016 at 5:52 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 6:53 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 8:37 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Excited Penguin - August 16, 2016 at 8:46 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 16, 2016 at 8:51 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 17, 2016 at 1:44 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2016 at 8:53 pm
RE: Faith and achievement - by bennyboy - August 17, 2016 at 12:44 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 12:49 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 8:47 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by Neo-Scholastic - August 17, 2016 at 9:48 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2016 at 9:51 am
RE: Faith and achievement - by Thumpalumpacus - August 17, 2016 at 12:02 pm

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