(August 17, 2016 at 5:26 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(August 17, 2016 at 5:20 pm)Gemini Wrote: Absolutely there are considerations that ensure a particular outcome in my decision-making. But when the considerations are facts about my own psychology, I don't experience them as duress.That sounds like a semantic switch rather than a qualitative objection. Do you -not- experience the duress of present financial status when deciding which car to buy?
Quote:Yes, my decisions were causally determined, but I'm happy to interpret these decisions as mine.-and I'm happy to give them to you as yours, I'm wondering about the sense in which they are free...not their ownership.
Quote:It was my own past experiences, for instance, that led me to endorse my husband's decision to listen to metal on our date today. I made that decision free from duress,You didn't really like the guy and want to participate in what he likes, you didn't feel compelled to share in your spouses experience? That's not duress, in context? Do you like metal?
Quote:but not free from the considerations of a lifetime of experience in a causally deterministic physical regime. I care about the former, and not about the latter. And that's the way it should be, sans theistic sophistry.So, again..its dog...but you prefer to call it taco meat. It doesn't sound, to me, like duress means anything in particular. It's just a skyhook.
Oh come on. Sky hook? Accuse me of redefining terms to suit my biases if you like--you might be right--but don't accuse me of skyhook. In even the must unflattering interpretation, it's crane "redefined" as skyhook.
Now when it comes to duress, I listened to music that I would not choose to listen to if I was alone. But I given the social predispositions of primates, and I don't think I can be blamed for agreeing to listen to some metal band with "murder" in the name just because I wanted to please my partner.There is reason for aesthetic appreciation, and more importantly, value within the causal regime in which I operate.
A Gemma is forever.