(August 19, 2016 at 9:05 pm)fdesilva Wrote:(August 19, 2016 at 8:46 pm)Whateverist Wrote: There is quite a lot which a fully formed (and brought to term) human infant cannot do at birth, both mentally and physically. It seems wrong to say from inception, a human knows "most perfectly well ones own consciousness and it(s) associated experiences." What exactly do you have in mind by "inception"? Is this the moment the sperm and egg get together, or what? If you're defining it as the moment consciousness kicks in then your statement becomes true by definition.
Also, why do you obsess about such things? You're just spouting what you believe in as authoritative manner as you can muster. This doesn't accomplish anything unless you're trying to do God's good work unto us which we to a man find annoying as hell.
Inception of consciousness
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Quote:From the very inception of ones own consciousness, a human knows most perfectly well ones own consciousness and it associated experiences.
just say, "from the very beginning of consciousness, there is consciousness"?[
I'm not sure my experience of consciousness is quite "perfect" every day even now, let alone from the instant the switch came on. We are conscious of something, but whether we "know perfectly well our own consciousness" is a different matter entirely. A baby has a very hard time knowing where they end and the rest of the world starts. I don't think the totality of ones consciousness is ever completely in view or "perfectly well known". What is fantasy, what is real. What is a genuine memory, what is a confabulation. We are not regularly transparent to ourselves.
