(August 20, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Gemini Wrote:(August 20, 2016 at 3:23 pm)RozKek Wrote: Sure, go try to shread the fact that the universe, or at least our brains are deterministic and that it plays a role in if our will is free or not.
Except that's exactly what we aren't shredding. We're shredding the metaphysical theory of contra-causal free will.
Contra-causal free will? Never heard of it before.
This is what I got from a source about what contra-causal free will is.
"Most people feel that if choices A and B are available, and nobody is forcing them to take one or the other, they can use their free will to pick one in a way that is reasoned and yet somehow floats above causality. This is what I called contra-causal free will in to the last post, and this is the sort of free will I contend cannot exist:"
How, exactly are you shredding contra-causal free will? Isn't that what I'm arguing against? If you're shredding contra-causal free will, then I think we're on the same side?