(May 10, 2011 at 5:57 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: It includes not only summaries of the current scientific consensus on global warming but also potential impacts and suggestions as to how to proceed in the future. As a global warming skeptic who is not happy with your government’s policy decisions concerning global warming, I would think you should be interested in what those policy makers are being told. Apparently you’re not though and would prefer to simply whine and cry about it.I don't care. Scientific consensus can be corrupted by political motives as we all know. This government's budget wants to invest in our aging infrastructure but billions of pounds are required that they don't currently have, so how do they balance the books? Turn to the taxpayer yet again? Or how about introduce new hefty carbon taxes onto UK steelmakers therefore industry and the local economy all suffer in the long-run?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12851188
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12847929
When people's livelihoods are at stake I disbelive ANY claim until there is sufficient evidence.
Quote:There’s a thread in this forum not too far from here where you claim, “Oh well since we know the government's preference is to fund any support of global warming theory let's continue to ignore the giant Elephant in the room a little longer shall we?” right below a big picture of the sun.Because the sun is, and always has been, responsible for our climate and weather. Go read a science book.
Quote:Void presented a bunch of data that showed that claim to be false. You promptly ignored it.There's a difference between ignoring what one asserts as evidence and dismissing it altogether. He presented some very unreliable data indeed, some of it ripped from Wikipedia that completely ignores the 1991 eruption of Mt. Pinatubo which effects were felt worldwide, global temperatures dropped by about 0.5 °C, what did the graph show? Temperatures rose by 0.5 °C, like magic.
Quote:You made the claim that instrument temperature has only been available since 1880, and that was not sufficient to provide a basis for claims of anthropogenic global warming.That's because we've only had instrumental temperature recording since 1880 when there are possible long-term solar cycles with our sun to consider that may be caused by magnetic instabilities inside its core, if so, we're looking at time periods into the hundreds of thousands of years.
Quote:You totally ignore the fact that reliable paleoclimate data is available for the 400,000 years plus.Citation please, since you enjoy "sharing information without discussion".
Quote:You have also made an unsupported assertion that anything related to the IPCC is unreliable. All I can say about that is LOLOL!Now you are talking shit. IPCC does not carry out their own original research. They are an unnecessary burden on the taxpayer. Their predictions are horribly inaccurate, Rajendra Pachauri admitted not so long ago he blundered by wrongly asserting the Himalayan glaciers will be gone by 2035, yet refused to step down from chair of the IPCC, and to add insult to injury he then attacked those who criticised their claims as using "voodoo science".
Sorry you feel that way, but the IPCC will be discounted every time we have any discussion on climate change in much the same way the Discovery Institute will be discounted whenever a theist starts up another "creationism vs. evolution" thread.
Quote:Sorry, it’s not my job to provide you with peer reviewed papers.I thought you started a thread with the intention of sharing information did you not?
Quote:Zen Badger’s link was to an article about global warming on Mars. The inference being that if Mars is warming too and the only thing Earth and Mars have in common is the Sun the cause must be the Sun. I provided a link to the original article that served as a source for Zen’s article. I also provided an explanation of why the original conclusion that Mars was warming along with the Earth was flawed.Mars has some climate similarities yes, but it is senseless to compare the two - Mars is only 11% of Earth's mass and 50% farther from the Sun than our own planet, has no evidence of a structured global magnetic field, or even a magnetosphere at all.
Let's stick with Earth's climate please.
Quote:Guess I've been reading too many articles by anthropogenic global warming skeptics.I doubt that very much.