(September 9, 2016 at 12:19 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:(September 9, 2016 at 10:04 am)iLittle Rik Wrote:
That to explain you that as nothing stay the same also the consciousness doesn't stay the same ever.
You keep on talking about the physical aspect of the evolution.
It never come in your mind that the physical is driven by the mind-consciousness aspect?
By the way this sort of thinking is one of the worse aspect of the atheistic way of thinking.
According most atheists what we are is not due to our own effort in previous lives.
Is instead due to what we inherited from previous generation.
This is stone age thinking son.
A lot of guessing boy.
But as the old granny said.......sometime fantasize keep us alive.
It all depend boy.
To be smart you got to struggle a lot.
People die due to their own stupidity in this or in previous lives.
Nothing to do with God.
God give you the free will to prosper or to end up (down) in the sewer.
He-she also give you the possibility to get out the sewer by learning how to live.
Nobody force you to read my post.
If you don't like them move to a different forum or thread.
Continue doing so boy.
One day you will sort out all your problems.
Thanks.
Consciousness is not something divine or spiritual. As our brains become more complex (only physically, there's nothing else) over time our consciousness grows. It's not like my kids will have a greater mental capacity (they could, but not due to evolution from me) it's going to take generations.
Fix your grammar; I can't fucking read it.
And show me some evidence that our physicality is based on our mind-consciousness (which couldn't have existed without our physicality).
"Stone age thinking.", Hold the fuck up dik. I? Use stone age thinking?
LMAFOOOOOOO
This has to be a troll.
Either way, the idea that there is a magical sky daddy ruling over us is non-scientific, and fucking stupid.
It's also archaic, so yeah.
And "According to most atheists,"...
Stop generalizing you dumbass.
And that's not true either, show me a survey.
And I'm not every atheist.
And only some of our actions in the present are hereditary (evolutionary).
Quote:A lot of guessing boy.
But as the old granny said.......sometime fantasize keep us alive.
Holy shit...
Do you know how many atoms are in a human body, do you know how many atoms are in your fucking toe nail?
I'm not guessing, or fantasizing. My body will decompose in the soil, and bacteria will feed upon it, releasing energy into the Earth, and conserving energy.
Again, like I said, the law of the conservation of mass and energy.
And to be smart you don't have to struggle.
Who struggled more...
Elon Musk? or Frederick Douglass?
Thought so.
And it may not be gods fault. It's that he doesn't help out.
If he gave us a cure, it would be up to us to use it wisely.
It's not affecting our will in anyway.
It's just lending a helping hand.
Like Harriet Tubman (who struggled, and was not smart, but a hero).
Yes, so your like the devil.
Whisper into my ear, give me a choice to listen or to not.
I don't have to but I do.
So you are the devil, and I am the sinner.
Explain to me why you believe in god?
Please?
Just gimme something that will convert me instantly. Or make me question.
Even if I do convert, I won't like this "god" for billions are dead, when he could have helped...
Read my signature.
Die is surely a big deal for those that believe in only one life.
For those like me that believe in reincarnation and a goal of life death is not a big deal unless
somebody torture me to death or I die in a violent way.
In that case I wouldn't like even if I know that that is not the end of myself (the real I).
Most atheists (this is not a generalization because this is what I see in here) think badly of a God
on the bases that God doesn't care if million of people die in a terrible way.
According to atheism there is no reincarnation nor karma so dying in a brutal way with a God that doesn't do anything to stop all this doesn't make sense and God is some sort of a bastard.
I probably would think along those lines myself if that is the case but I don't because I know that reincarnation is there the karma law is there and free will is there for all of us to progress or end down in the sewer.
One day if you will ever become a father you will have to give your grown up kids the freedom to do what they like in the good or the bad as now your father as you grow up is giving you more and more freedom to do what you like even if he may not agree with your choices.
That is how the system works boy.
At the end you will be the sole responsible for your actions.
Your father can not be blamed for your stupidity and so God as a father.