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A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 7:56 am
We all know about alot of the weird contradictions in the bible, etc.
I'm not questioning why God is stupid. I know he isn't because his character was written by man.
I'm just at a loss to explain the thinking by the authors/translators behind something very basic.
Why would an all powerful God who just created the whole universe need to pinch a rib from Adam to make Eve?
I know it's just a story, but what the hell is the moral from it? ---That God is all powerful except for making spare ribs? 
I'd like a theist to enlighten me please.
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 9:56 am
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(February 14, 2017 at 7:56 am)ignoramus Wrote: We all know about alot of the weird contradictions in the bible, etc.
I'm not questioning why God is stupid. I know he isn't because his character was written by man.
I'm just at a loss to explain the thinking by the authors/translators behind something very basic.
Why would an all powerful God who just created the whole universe need to pinch a rib from Adam to make Eve?
I know it's just a story, but what the hell is the moral from it? ---That God is all powerful except for making spare ribs?
I'd like a theist to enlighten me please.
In answer to the part I bolded, this part of the story was chosen to make the point that men should lord it over women and women should acquiesce to life as man's chattel. I wouldn't look much deeper than that. Here, political messaging has trumped internal coherence in terms of writer's purpose.
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 10:06 am
Isn't it just symbolic?
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 10:17 am
(February 14, 2017 at 10:06 am)phoenix31 Wrote: Isn't it just symbolic?
That depends upon who you are asking.
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 10:48 am
(February 14, 2017 at 7:56 am)ignoramus Wrote: We all know about alot of the weird contradictions in the bible, etc.
I'm not questioning why God is stupid. I know he isn't because his character was written by man.
I'm just at a loss to explain the thinking by the authors/translators behind something very basic.
Why would an all powerful God who just created the whole universe need to pinch a rib from Adam to make Eve?
I know it's just a story, but what the hell is the moral from it? ---That God is all powerful except for making spare ribs?
I'd like a theist to enlighten me please.
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 10:57 am
(February 14, 2017 at 7:56 am)ignoramus Wrote: We all know about alot of the weird contradictions in the bible, etc.
I'm not questioning why God is stupid. I know he isn't because his character was written by man.
I'm just at a loss to explain the thinking by the authors/translators behind something very basic.
Why would an all powerful God who just created the whole universe need to pinch a rib from Adam to make Eve?
I know it's just a story, but what the hell is the moral from it? ---That God is all powerful except for making spare ribs?
I'd like a theist to enlighten me please.
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 11:42 am
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It is the origin story of an intensely patriarchal society. By making Eve out of a part of Adam, she – and by extension– all women are inherently subservient to men. Had God created Eve from dust the way he did Adam, women might be able to make the case that they were equal to men and deserved equal ...whaddya call 'em...rights.
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 1:40 pm
(February 14, 2017 at 10:17 am)HairyCyclist Wrote: (February 14, 2017 at 10:06 am)phoenix31 Wrote: Isn't it just symbolic?
That depends upon who you are asking.
It's symbolic :-)
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 3:23 pm
(February 14, 2017 at 11:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It is the origin story of an intensely patriarchal society. By making Eve out of a part of Adam, she – and by extension– all women are inherently subservient to men. Had God created Eve from dust the way he did Adam, women might be able to make the case that they were equal to men and deserved equal ...whaddya call 'em...rights.
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This is the reason the councils who put the bible together in the fourth century (somebody may want to start a thread about why god waited four fucking centuries to tell his pricking people which of the hundreds of manuscripts in circulation were inspired by him) decided to leave out the story of Lilith.
But there is another way to interpret the Adam and Eve story. The rib is symbolic in three ways that are more realistic than what they've come to mean.
1. Making Eve from a part of Adam signifies the oneness of men and women. We're not separate species (even if at times you may wonder) but are to be loved as you would love your own body.
2. The rib is located at your side, which is where we are to walk with you. A truly subservient symbol would have been taken from your foot.
3. The purpose of the rib is to protect your heart and lungs. In this patriarchal society we haven't really been able to carry out that role. Like any endoskeletal species that evolves without ribs the heart and lungs of men is in constant peril.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: A simple God question if I may.
February 14, 2017 at 3:34 pm
(February 14, 2017 at 9:56 am)Whateverist Wrote: (February 14, 2017 at 7:56 am)ignoramus Wrote: We all know about alot of the weird contradictions in the bible, etc.
I'm not questioning why God is stupid. I know he isn't because his character was written by man.
I'm just at a loss to explain the thinking by the authors/translators behind something very basic.
Why would an all powerful God who just created the whole universe need to pinch a rib from Adam to make Eve?
I know it's just a story, but what the hell is the moral from it? ---That God is all powerful except for making spare ribs?
I'd like a theist to enlighten me please.
In answer to the part I bolded, this part of the story was chosen to make the point that men should lord it over women and women should acquiesce to life as man's chattel. I wouldn't look much deeper than that. Here, political messaging has trumped internal coherence in terms of writer's purpose.
If 'god' was so smart he would have given all men the same sized dick and it would have saved a lot of trouble in this world.
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