(September 9, 2016 at 6:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think there's some confusion over what is meant by the term 'forgery'.
Forgery is sort of a sub-category of fraud, but with a significant difference. In order for a hadith to be a forgery, someone would have had to have made a copy of an 'authentic' hadith, and tried to pass it off as the genuine article. In that sense, at least, the idea that ANY hadith are forged is not provable.
But even if we accept all hadith as genuine/authentic, that says nothing about their truth or falsity. In essence, a hadith is a report of something Muhammad said or did. Such a report can be genuine (not forged) and still be untrue.
And the reason that the hadith are not mentioned in the Q'ran is that hadith are, by definition, things that are not mentioned in the Q'ran.
Boru
That's kind of what I was trying to get at, yeah
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
