(April 6, 2009 at 6:59 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 6, 2009 at 5:09 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And since philosophy alone has never demonstrated anything that means you can never demonstrate the supposed reality of your god. I assume you will no longer make claims about your god in this forum?Show me one claim that I've made. I don't believe I have made any. I state what I believe. I cannot claim what isn't demonstrably provable, and I haven't.
Early in your stay here you stated something to the effect of it being expected that there is no evidence and the fact that there is none supports your claim to deity.
(April 6, 2009 at 6:59 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 6, 2009 at 5:09 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And I'm saying I wasn't ... I'm saying that ANY claim (no matter what it is) can be evaluated to some degree by conventional empirical means (IOW by science) even if it is to conclude there is no evidence and therefore not worth anything more than the claim that there is a cream cake at the centre of the Earth.And I repeat, I make no claims.
And I'm saying that implicitly (perhaps even directly, right now I'm too lazy to check ... and more interested in killing Jedi's) you have made such claims.
(April 6, 2009 at 6:59 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 6, 2009 at 5:09 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Which is a logical fallacy.What? Special pleading, your statements or me not agreeing?
Special pleading.
(April 6, 2009 at 6:59 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: [quote='Kyuuketsuki' pid='13377' dateline='1239052163']Nothing, in principle, is beyond the investigative reach of science. Is that specific enough for you?"in principle". Neither of us can know either way. Neither of us can claim one way or the other. About science.
"In principle" effectively means that the limiting factor is resolution (technology and method).
Kyu
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