(September 17, 2016 at 5:26 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(September 17, 2016 at 11:35 am)Rhythm Wrote: If you say "that" and point to an apple..Imma get it. If you think that it is or could be a spirit apple full of world peace (or that it;s useful, somehow, to leave that door open by pedantically describing a "neutral") then maybe, just maybe, it's your belief that needs elaboration rather than the materialistic underpinnings, as you see them, of everyday speech patterns.
I don't think he's saying reality is neutral. I think he's saying the right position to take on things whose underlying framework you can't really know is a neutral position. So maybe you see an apple and say it's material stuff. I see an apple and say it's a collection of ideas: a particular shape, color, glossiness etc. He seems (unless I'm reading it wrong) to think both those positions are pointless. He'd rather dump the guesses and just say, "Nah. . . just an apple."
So, if I understand this correctly, why can't we just say, "we don't know" instead of saying it's neutral?
I still don't get the whole apple analogy.
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