(September 18, 2016 at 9:19 pm)paulpablo Wrote:(September 18, 2016 at 9:05 pm)Losty Wrote: Meh I can see both sides. I'll just say...if I want to drink until I get black out drunk that's my damn choice as an adult. I am within my legal rights to drown myself in every last bottle and it doesn't mean anyone can rape me, kill me, or steal my car.
The reason people don't like this response is because it's only used for rape. If I drink myself into oblivion and someone comes in my house, takes my keys, and steals my car not one single person will be like "well...I mean, I'm not saying it's you're fault...but you could have protected yourself if you weren't so drunk".
I don't think it's a statement only used for rape.
Drunk people are more vulnerable to lots of crime I don't think it's unheard of for people to be made awake of it.
People will have their phones hanging out of their pocket, or go over and start conversations with obviously violent aggressive people who they would normally avoid while sober.
I think there's loads of crimes where someone might say the victim shouldn't have drank so much but that's not to say it wouldn't be a callous thing to say though.
People don't usually blame the victim when it's not rape though.
No matter what stupid irresponsible things you might ever do, it will never be your fault if someone else commits a crime against you.
If you tie yourself naked to a light post with a blindfold on, it will still not be your fault if someone hurts you. You might be an idiot for doing so, but the actions of the criminal are the criminal's own responsibility.
Ask me how many times I have raped a drunk person. Tell me how many times you have raped a drunk person? Rapists will rape. It's their crime. It's their fault. It's doesn't matter what their victim was or wasn't doing at the time.
This is the whole thing, telling people to be responsible is fine as long as you're not blaming them. But pretending no one ever does victim blaming is ridiculous and not helpful either.
