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Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
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Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving compensation when they themselves are the victims of crime

Quote:After his father was murdered in Sarasota, Florida, in 2015, Anthony "Amp" Campbell was in shock. Not only had he lost his role model and supporter, he also worried about coming up with $10,000 to pay for the funeral and burial.

Campbell, an Alabama State University football coach, emptied most of his savings but still could not cover the whole cost. Sarasota police urged him to apply to Florida’s crime victim compensation fund for help. Every state has such a fund to reimburse people for the financial wallop that can come with being a victim.

The answer was no. His father, Johnnie Campbell, had been convicted of burglary in 1983 after a late-night break-in attempt at a local business, and Florida law is clear: people with certain types of felonies in their past cannot receive victim's aid. It did not matter that the elder Campbell had changed in 30 years—the Sarasota City Commission called him a “prominent citizen” a month after his death—or that his son had never committed a crime.

Florida is one of seven states that bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim compensation. The laws are meant to keep limited funds from going to people who are deemed undeserving. But the rules have had a broader effect: an analysis of records in two of those states—Florida and Ohio—shows that the bans fall hardest on black victims and their families, like the Campbells.

Quote:In Florida, the ban applies to anyone who has been convicted as an adult of one of a constellation of felonies, including burglary and aggravated assault. In that state, about 30 percent of people who listed their race when applying for victim compensation in 2015 and 2016 were black. But black applicants made up 61 percent of people denied aid for having a criminal record, according to the analysis by The Marshall Project and Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting, in conjunction with the USA TODAY Network.

The racial disparity was similar in Ohio, which denies compensation to people not just convicted of a felony in the past 10 years but simply suspected of certain felonies, even if they were never found guilty or committed the crime as a juvenile. In Ohio, 42 percent of victims who applied for reimbursement in 2016 and listed their race were black. But 61 percent of people turned down for having a record were black.

Is this right? What do you think?
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
No that's not good if a criminal is a victim they are still a victim
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
It's a little creepy that we tend to unperson criminals. Especially sad when it was just burglary.
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Rhode Island and North Carolina, Florida, Ohio.  WTF is Rhode Island doing on a list with all those racist shitballs?
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
In general I wouldn’t agree if they had paid the time for their crime. However I could see the argument that this is a further penalty and deterant.

It seems wrong however to make it about race also, unless the rules are being applied disproportionately.
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
Makes no sense to me, but then I don't live in FL. 

I think it's something in the water and heat that makes them goofy.
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
(September 13, 2018 at 8:20 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: In general I wouldn’t agree if they had paid the time for their crime. However I could see the argument that this is a further penalty and deterant.

It seems wrong however to make it about race also, unless the rules are being applied disproportionately.

Of course they are.  Are you still into playing "pretend" at your age?
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
Disgustingly unfair.
How are people ever supposed to become productive members of society again if they can't vote, get a job, or even this!?
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
There are lots of ways that FL dicks anyone whose ever been convicted (or accused) of a crime in FL.
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RE: Seven states bar people with a criminal record from receiving victim's compensation
It may be a deterrent, but that doesn't justify it on its own. This seems like an example of cruel and unusual punishment. Once a person has been punished for a crime, we then punish them again for having been a criminal. And what's worse, it punishes people related to the person who aren't criminals at all! It would be like not allowing criminals to hold jobs. Sure, they're less deserving in some sense, and it would deter people from committing crimes, but how absurd would that be even given those justifications. This is just a lesser form of the same thing. Supposedly, after one has served one's time, one is then allowed to participate fully in society as any other member can. I'm not sure what the rules are about felons who have served their time voting, but it seems that once a person has paid their debt to society, their participation in society shouldn't just be arbitrarily limited because it might deter some people from committing crimes. I don't see how this serves a useful purpose at all, or at least not a justifiable purpose. I have issues with civil commitment, too, where a sex offender is locked up in a mental facility indefinitely because they still pose a danger to society long after a criminal committing an equally grave offense would have been released. These justifications only go so far before they bleed into things that are clearly not right.
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