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Infinity
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RE: Infinity
(September 18, 2016 at 7:43 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(September 11, 2016 at 10:00 am)fdesilva Wrote: In the universe as we know it the following is true.

1.Infinite time is time without end and as such can never be reached.
2.Infinite distance can never be reached. Speed has a maximum which is the speed of light as such an infinite distance cannot be reached for the following reason.Consider sending out a beam of light. The light will never reach infinity as it would need infinite time. An infinite time can never pass as its time without end.
3. Nothing can be infinitely old. Consider making some object. Any time in the future it will always have a finite age as infinite time can never pass. Applying this to the past means that everything that exist is not infinity old or did not always exist.
4.The truth of 3 has been demonstrated by the big bang which was the event that gave birth to the universe.
5. The cause of the event that gave rise to the universe, if it had a property of infinity the same as the infinity in this universe then it in turn would be of a finite age and would need a creating event.
6.Thus anything with a property of infinity the same as the infinity of this universe could not be the ultimate cause of this universe or any universe like it.
7. Thus the ultimate cause of everything that exist has an infinity that is different or nothing like the infinity of this universe.

0. You post is a pain to quote and then read with all the modifiers..

1. Time is inextricable from space and the movement of mass/objects. If you are talking about infinite time, you need to include infinite space and absolute mass in your concept.

2. Light cannot propagate through absolute mass (look up quark matter), it's degree of freedom is the strong nuclear force and the waves that propagate in an infinitely spatial mass are the same for all areas all at the same time. It has a frequency of vibration like standing waves in water.

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3. You only took preexisting matter and re-formed it into another shape.  Mass/energy is not created nor destroyed, it is transfered and transformed. What was created was the void space to fling fundamental matter into motion thus creating time.

4. The Big Bang inflated the void space required for mass to move and thus "make time happen".  It did not created mass.

5. Yes.

6. Yes.

7. Yes. The Infinite prior to the space of the universe is absolute mass, an "all consuming fire" of quark-gluon soup.

8. The space of a universe is a finite spherical bubble within the infinite mass.

9. Our section of this universe which patterns for our specific density of quark exists as spatially finite toroidal ring in motion, like a flying serpent biting it's tail.

10. The toroidal shape and rotation is a relative infinite (of motion) as a finite space, inside an absolute infinity of mass and vibration.

11. There are infinite individual universes and they are all the same basic pattern, yet evolve differently as different spaces at different times.

In regards to

Quote:3. You only took preexisting matter and re-formed it into another shape. Mass/energy is not created nor destroyed, it is transfered and transformed. What was created was the void space to fling fundamental matter into motion thus creating time.

4. The Big Bang inflated the void space required for mass to move and thus "make time happen". It did not created mass.

Would I be right to say you are making a hypotheses.?
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Messages In This Thread
Infinity - by fdesilva - September 11, 2016 at 10:00 am
RE: Infinity - by robvalue - September 11, 2016 at 10:49 am
RE: Infinity - by maestroanth - October 30, 2016 at 7:35 am
RE: Infinity - by bennyboy - October 30, 2016 at 6:14 pm
RE: Infinity - by c172 - September 11, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Infinity - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 11, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: Infinity - by Minimalist - September 11, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Infinity - by bennyboy - September 11, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Infinity - by robvalue - September 11, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: Infinity - by purplepurpose - September 11, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Infinity - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 11, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: Infinity - by Jesster - September 11, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 7:43 pm
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 18, 2016 at 10:26 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:55 pm
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 4:10 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 5:27 am
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - September 19, 2016 at 7:14 am
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 7:15 am
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - September 19, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - September 20, 2016 at 4:55 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 1, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - October 1, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 1, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - October 1, 2016 at 9:54 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 1, 2016 at 11:35 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - September 18, 2016 at 10:48 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Infinity - by Aractus - September 18, 2016 at 11:39 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 12:17 am
RE: Infinity - by Aractus - September 19, 2016 at 5:22 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 5:08 am
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 4:53 am
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 5:12 am
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 5:17 am
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: Infinity - by fdesilva - September 19, 2016 at 8:58 am
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 5:51 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: Infinity - by I_am_not_mafia - September 19, 2016 at 8:04 am
RE: Infinity - by InquiringMind - September 25, 2016 at 6:38 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 1, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - October 1, 2016 at 11:40 pm
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 2, 2016 at 12:08 am
RE: Infinity - by chimp3 - October 2, 2016 at 9:23 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 2, 2016 at 2:52 pm
RE: Infinity - by Ravenshire - October 1, 2016 at 11:50 pm
RE: Infinity - by robvalue - October 2, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: Infinity - by Arkilogue - October 2, 2016 at 12:42 am
RE: Infinity - by robvalue - October 2, 2016 at 2:09 am
RE: Infinity - by bennyboy - October 30, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Infinity - by Alex K - October 30, 2016 at 6:58 pm
RE: Infinity - by bennyboy - October 30, 2016 at 11:33 pm

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