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Victim Blaming?
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RE: Victim Blaming?
(September 19, 2016 at 1:54 am)Arkilogue Wrote:
(September 19, 2016 at 12:02 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Seeking to attach blame for a misdeed is an entirely natural human response to a misdeed.

I'm all for rational preparation, but attaching a pejorative label like "victim thinker" to someone simply because they want to attach blame for a crime is not only based on an unrealistic grasp of human psychology, it's also pretty heartless, I think.

A person can both stay prepared, and seek to place blame. Speaking rationally, asserting otherwise is a false dichotomy.

Certainly! And US courts agree and rightfully serve sentence to the guilty party of the rapist nearly no matter what the circumstance of the victim. Rape is rape and the volitional part (blame) is fully on the rapist which is mostly male because that's just how anatomy and evolutionary predisposition is.

I think the situation is worse than a "victim-hood, all men are rapists" mind set. It's becoming "women bear no self responsibility for their situation and their actions have no consequences."

I disagree. Not only is no one saying that "all men are rapists" (strawman much?!), you've got examples in this very thread of women who are speaking otherwise regarding consequences of behavior and decisions.

You can ignore them if you wish, but that doesn't make their posts less-pertinent. They are women; they are saying that getting drunk raises vulnerability and that it isn't wise. Even the OP (in a later post) wrote, "Why put yourself in danger?" It sure seems to me, on this side of the screen, that there's a preconceived notion in play on your part.

Bang that drum all you want, but don't bang it over the heads here. The gals are generally talking sensibly, and don't deserve to be pasted with your sociological perspective when they generally aren't espousing what you claim.

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Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 18, 2016 at 7:42 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by vorlon13 - September 18, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 8:09 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Joods - September 18, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by rexbeccarox - September 18, 2016 at 8:46 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:04 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Joods - September 18, 2016 at 8:34 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 8:48 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tartarus Sauce - September 18, 2016 at 8:52 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:05 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:07 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:15 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 18, 2016 at 10:28 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 10:50 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 11:08 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by paulpablo - September 18, 2016 at 9:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:28 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Joods - September 18, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:07 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:16 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 18, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by RobertE - September 19, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by paulpablo - September 18, 2016 at 9:13 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:20 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 9:50 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:08 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 10:15 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:36 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 10:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 10:46 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Faith No More - September 19, 2016 at 11:59 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2016 at 10:26 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2016 at 10:39 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 10:45 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 18, 2016 at 10:47 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 18, 2016 at 11:07 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 18, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 12:03 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by vorlon13 - September 18, 2016 at 10:51 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 10:52 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 18, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 18, 2016 at 10:59 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 18, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 18, 2016 at 11:57 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 19, 2016 at 12:41 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 12:43 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 1:56 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 4:05 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 4:36 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 5:09 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 19, 2016 at 12:00 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 12:02 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 1:54 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 3:55 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 4:31 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 5:00 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 5:16 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 19, 2016 at 12:39 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 12:44 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by BrokenQuill92 - September 19, 2016 at 12:44 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Regina - September 19, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 19, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 5:57 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 5:59 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Faith No More - September 19, 2016 at 12:03 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Jello - September 19, 2016 at 1:13 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by RozKek - September 20, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 5:54 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 6:07 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Ben Davis - September 19, 2016 at 6:28 am
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2016 at 9:07 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2016 at 9:10 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 10:00 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 20, 2016 at 7:08 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2016 at 10:30 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 21, 2016 at 12:05 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 19, 2016 at 1:28 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 19, 2016 at 10:42 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 19, 2016 at 11:04 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 11:45 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 20, 2016 at 1:17 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 1:22 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 20, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 20, 2016 at 2:08 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 20, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 4:15 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 3:33 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 20, 2016 at 3:39 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 20, 2016 at 10:37 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 21, 2016 at 4:50 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 20, 2016 at 10:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2016 at 3:51 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Arkilogue - September 21, 2016 at 4:08 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 2:55 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - September 20, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Edwardo Piet - September 20, 2016 at 3:34 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 20, 2016 at 6:10 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 8:38 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 8:40 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Losty - September 20, 2016 at 8:41 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2016 at 3:46 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 8:49 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 8:53 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 9:49 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 9:55 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by rexbeccarox - September 20, 2016 at 10:35 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 10:43 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 1, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by RobertE - October 1, 2016 at 4:04 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 8:50 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 10:29 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by account_inactive - September 20, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Tiberius - September 20, 2016 at 10:42 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Jackalope - September 20, 2016 at 10:58 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 20, 2016 at 11:51 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Edwardo Piet - September 21, 2016 at 4:10 am
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 21, 2016 at 8:05 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by J a c k - September 21, 2016 at 8:11 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Seraphina - September 21, 2016 at 8:57 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 21, 2016 at 9:11 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Lek - September 23, 2016 at 7:11 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - September 23, 2016 at 7:49 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - October 1, 2016 at 3:40 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Excited Penguin - October 1, 2016 at 7:30 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Catholic_Lady - October 1, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Whateverist - October 1, 2016 at 11:40 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Jackalope - October 1, 2016 at 12:40 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - October 1, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2016 at 7:19 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 2, 2016 at 7:36 pm
Victim Blaming? - by LadyForCamus - October 4, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by The Grand Nudger - October 4, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Sal - October 4, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Victim Blaming? - by Lek - October 4, 2016 at 4:19 pm

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