(September 23, 2016 at 5:12 am)mcolafson Wrote:(September 23, 2016 at 5:07 am)george.hobden Wrote: I've heard this kind of rhetoric quite often in debates and the like. I think because most religious people tend to derive their morals from wanting to please their sentient overlord, they think that because liberals or atheists don't believe in a god, this means they have no moral compass to follow and are therefore concienceless animals. Pretty ridiculous as this can easily be proven not to be true given the fact that non-believers aren't wandering around raping, murdering, stealing and abusing people.
That is because you and me are bound by human laws (that were drawn by religious people with moral compass).
If you or me were put on a deserted island, then we would start raping, murdering, stealing and abusing whoever we can abuse...
I don't think so, I would say its more to do with the evolutionary development of social norms and laws that are innate in our selves. We feel empathy, so we can understand that raping or murdering someone would cause them pain and misery (which we wouldn't want for ourselves). Therefore as humans we realise it is objectively wrong to do these things. No religion needed!
