(September 23, 2016 at 12:43 pm)_Velvet_ Wrote:(September 23, 2016 at 12:29 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Also, the cosmological argument is self-defeating. If a god can exist without a prior cause, then why can't the universe?
This is one of the classic refutations that I just don't think it holds.
A god could come to existance without a prior cause because he would be able to do godlike shit like creating himself or some other magical and non-sensical stuff that natural things just can't do (or at least wouldn't be reasonable to expect they would)
While an universe coming into existance without a prior cause doesn't really make sense (not saying its impossible but I just don't think it would make any sense for it do suddenly come into existance)
Who said it suddenly came into existence?
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
