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Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 11:31 am
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Okay, I was learning about Superposition in Quantum Theory.
It basically says something can be in all possible states at once, until it is observed, forcing it to collapse into one possibility or another.
So, the singularity had multiple possibilities of what it could become, but in order for one of those possibilities to form, there would need to be an observer to force this. That observer would be a god.
Im no Quantum Physicist. I could be making a total fool of myself by misunderstanding the theory. I want to hear imputs, have I done anything of worth here?
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 11:32 am
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No, you've misunderstood what the word observed means in context. There's no end of quantum mysticism that stems from this single, simple...and perhaps easy to make, mistake.
Quote:In quantum mechanics, there is a common misconception (which has acquired a life of its own, giving rise to endless speculations) that it is the mind of a conscious observer that affects the observer effect in quantum processes. It is rooted in a basic misunderstanding of the meaning of the quantum wave function ψ and the quantum measurement process.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 11:33 am
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(May 20, 2016 at 11:32 am)Rhythm Wrote: No, you've misunderstood what the word observer means in context. There's no end of quantum mysticism that stems from this. Can you expand on this
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Ive seen your edited post and I have realised my mistake.
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 11:43 am
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Yeah, I realised you might not know where to look...it's QM after all, - shits basically witchcraft- , and added the wiki link, lol.
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 12:04 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 11:31 am)GeneralDog Wrote: Okay, I was learning about Superposition in Quantum Theory.
It basically says something can be in all possible states at once, until it is observed, forcing it to collapse into one possibility or another.
So, the singularity had multiple possibilities of what it could become, but in order for one of those possibilities to form, there would need to be an observer to force this. That observer would be a god.
Im no Quantum Physicist. I could be making a total fool of myself by misunderstanding the theory. I want to hear imputs, have I done anything of worth here?
I see this more as proof for a virtual universe programmed by a lazy programmer. If I were a lazy programmer I would make reality only become evident when it was required such s when something was observing it.
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 12:22 pm
Except that it isn't proof, or evidence, of that...either. 
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 12:28 pm
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(May 20, 2016 at 12:04 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: (May 20, 2016 at 11:31 am)GeneralDog Wrote: Okay, I was learning about Superposition in Quantum Theory.
It basically says something can be in all possible states at once, until it is observed, forcing it to collapse into one possibility or another.
So, the singularity had multiple possibilities of what it could become, but in order for one of those possibilities to form, there would need to be an observer to force this. That observer would be a god.
Im no Quantum Physicist. I could be making a total fool of myself by misunderstanding the theory. I want to hear imputs, have I done anything of worth here?
I see this more as proof for a virtual universe programmed by a lazy programmer. If I were a lazy programmer I would make reality only become evident when it was required such s when something was observing it.
That reminds me of this story I read a while back
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 12:39 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 12:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Except that it isn't proof, or evidence, of that...either.
Yeah I know.
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 1:08 pm
To be fair, we really don't know how wave function collapse in nature works and whether there is one, fundamentally.
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RE: Have I just demonstrated a deist god?
May 20, 2016 at 11:18 pm
GeneralDog, I trust you're not back to guzzling the koolaid!
I don't think you are, but you are excersizing some fine mental gymnastics there.
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