RE: Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me.
September 23, 2016 at 1:46 pm
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2016 at 1:47 pm by Faith No More.)
(September 23, 2016 at 1:09 pm)_Velvet_ Wrote: 1: because this first cause, whatever it might be doesn't need to follow or rules of causation because it is somehow different, the way it is from outside our dimension of time already makes it more plausible to me for it to exist on a uncaused way.
Even if I granted you this as true, what proof do you have that this thing that defies the rules of causation is a conscious entity?
(September 23, 2016 at 1:09 pm)_Velvet_ Wrote: 3: It would have be some sort of "cause from outside of time", the first cause its different from everything else exactly in that, it is the phenomena started time and started the causation chain.
How exactly does something exist out of time? Is a position in time not a prerequisite for existence? How can something start time when it would by definition have to precede time, even though preceding time is a nonsensical concept?
You have to remember that the whole universe was a singularity at this point, and our understanding of physics breaks down at this state. Not only that, but it's been proven that the universe does not follow the classical notion of cause and effect at this scale.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell