(September 23, 2016 at 4:08 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:(September 23, 2016 at 12:43 pm)_Velvet_ Wrote: This is one of the classic refutations that I just don't think it holds.
A god could come to existance without a prior cause because he would be able to do godlike shit like creating himself or some other magical and non-sensical stuff that natural things just can't do (or at least wouldn't be reasonable to expect they would)
While an universe coming into existance without a prior cause doesn't really make sense (not saying its impossible but I just don't think it would make any sense for it do suddenly come into existance)
Yeah, but what makes a god so special that it can exist outside the sum total of our reality? You see, as soon as you try to explain god as a special case you're automatically back in magical pixie dust land.
Not really. The sum total of "our reality" is dominated by space between stuff and movement of stuff and they had a beginning....the stuff didn't.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
