RE: Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me.
September 26, 2016 at 7:56 am
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2016 at 8:45 am by _Velvet_.)
(September 26, 2016 at 3:33 am)InsaneDane Wrote: But Deism renders any kind of religion or religious practice unnecessary, as the "divine entity" that created the universe uhm... "Doesn't give a fuck" about anything of this world.
Deism, in my opinion should really fall under Atheism, as a Deism can never be proven nor disproven as it present the universe as a fabricated product, equal to a Snickers bar.
And the Deist doesn't care for religious practice (?)
Is it anything but an observation/assumption that will never really have any use to mankind nor the believer?
Though Deism is far, far, far more valid than any Theistic belief, I just really don't see how the assumption that the universe was created by an unknown entity, then left to either work or collapse upon itself can really have or should have any meaning to any human being...
Maybe I'm just close-minded?
Well, the idea its not necessarily that the cause doesn't give a fuck, it might or might not give a fuck, perhaps he is voyeur... yeah i'm joking well I just don't try to define it, I keep it as a cause, the unmoved mover, but I don't even go as far as attributing consciousness to it.
And when causes are all caused the next question would be what makes the first cause special? why/how the first cause its the first cause and not just another cause in the chain... how can it be?
Then you have
1: It causes itself, or it is its own cause (somehow, yeah I don't understand it neither, hence Wizard, cuz Wiz makes magic)
2: It just came to be with no reason (well normal things just don't do that, but perhaps magic? Hence Wizard)
3: It part of another kind of chain (hence multiverse, you are stil left with "ok what about the first then?")
4: Infinite Regression (as someone point out it doesn't really makes any less sense than the Wizard, but its a very unsettling thing to just accept)
5: The First cause its a natural one but it somehow defied what we know about how natural things behave (doesn't really makes any less sense than the wizard, to some makes even more sense as its, as some describe,a way less pretentious assumption)
Anyways whatever your pick theres no religion there to follow its just about trying to figure things out without (yet) having access to scientific data, either because you are ignorant of part of the data, or science itself its (still) ignorant about the question.