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Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me.
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RE: Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me.
(September 26, 2016 at 8:00 am)robvalue Wrote: Right, and what is magic? I'd be interested in anyone trying to define magic without committing equivocation fallacies. Same with "supernatural".

I angrily explain this point below.

https://youtu.be/J5u5-Bg2ENQ

Well when I say magic its really not related to god of the gaps as your video seemed to imply.

The universe its bounded by some laws (that are dictated by its own nature and observed by us), when those laws are suspended I would call the magic, supernatural to me its indeed what you explained, something not yet explained and (still) considered magic.

While you do point that we don't know those laws, we only know our models, and those are especially unreliable when talking about the time very very close to big bang or anything before it (if there's something), I still would still think its reasonable to think that things having reason its right.

Even if I'm not absolutelly sure of it, I argue only that its reasonable to expect things to have a cause, and the first cause to be somehow different from the others.

If your position its to not make a stand on the origins of the universe unless you are sure of it, then ok.

But I think we probably will not ever be sure of it, so might as well determine the most reasonable explanation (and not just assume it truth, but just determine it as the most reasonable explanation)
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RE: Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me. - by _Velvet_ - September 26, 2016 at 8:24 am

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