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Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me.
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RE: Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me.
(September 26, 2016 at 8:46 am)robvalue Wrote: So... magic means not from our universe?

I'd advise saying our reality, because universe usually means "everything that exists".

You're saying things not from our reality interact with our reality differently than if they were from our reality? Quite possibly, yeah.

So "nature" is our reality, and "supernature" is things outside our reality? That's actually one of the only sensible definitions there is. And it's relative. Things outside our reality are magic/supernatural to us. Not to things from their own reality. And things may be magic in relation to this other reality too, from yet another one.

Are we supernatural in relation to this other reality too? Stuff from here would interact differently there also, I expect?

So all we're saying is different stuff produces different results. I won't argue with that.

I find that definitions a bit convoluted, but yes.

I use the word "universe" as "everything that came out of our big bang event"

If there are multiple universes (or realities by your wording) the first cause could be an event from there, thats why it does "magic".

But now if we have some event that doesn't follow causation because it is from "another place" then it is not special, its just the first cause because causes are things innate only to our reality...

...well that makes sense.

This is still multiverse tho.
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RE: Am I a Deist? Cosmological Argument seems reasonable to me. - by _Velvet_ - September 26, 2016 at 8:59 am

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