Peace....
You doubt whether the immaterial world exists? That is probably because you fail to understand the implications of quantum physics.
Here is an article written by a Professor at John Hopkins University relating to the Quantum nature of Creation...Read the last paragraph carefully where he says this " The Universe is immaterial, mental and spiritual. Live and enjoy".
http://henry.pha.jhu.edu/The.mental.universe.pdf
Whirling Moat
(May 26, 2011 at 2:23 pm)Eudaimonia Wrote:(May 26, 2011 at 1:13 pm)tackattack Wrote: No, I'm suggesting that there is no scientific evidence for consciousness independent of the brain (matter). I wouldn't expect there to be scientific/ materialistic evidence on such. There is however experiential and verifiable indicative evidence, that most materialists choose to ignore to support knowledge outside of the functioning of the brain as we currently understand that matter to work. As long as the evidence type matches the type of proof I see it as valid evidence, but I'm sure many here don't and would require substantial proof for substantial claims. However, I might add, that how much difference to the wold (in an individualistic experiential, not societal understanding) being flat or being round actually have? Little, IMO, and a far more disparate number of people believe in/ don't believe in the concept of a soul or consciousness outside matter. I don't think it stretches reason much at all, but I'm probably more biased than anyone will give me credit for, and wouldn't require the huge mountains of objective evidence professed by the nay-sayers.
Tack,
Please note.. My position relates to matter.. not brains (specifically).. your argument re. consciousness and the brain is not one that should be positioned my way...
Also, I am unsure of your definition of materialist.. I'd like to know to see if your definition regarding materialists applies to me .. It seems you have a lot of assumptions about me and are arguing those assumptions rather than strictly what I have presented..
It is my understanding that the scientific method allows for rigorous theories of many things that can not be sensory experienced.. but I am unaware of any study that indicates that an immaterial world exists.. Assuming they are rigorous and peer reviewed.. I would be interested in being directed towards such studies...
You doubt whether the immaterial world exists? That is probably because you fail to understand the implications of quantum physics.
Here is an article written by a Professor at John Hopkins University relating to the Quantum nature of Creation...Read the last paragraph carefully where he says this " The Universe is immaterial, mental and spiritual. Live and enjoy".
http://henry.pha.jhu.edu/The.mental.universe.pdf
Whirling Moat
