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The Atheist Movement.
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RE: The Atheist Movement.
Quote:thesummerqueen
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(September 28, 2016 at 7:04 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Over the last six months I have emailed all three of them on occassion, suggesting ideas that I believe would be helpful to their "ministry".  No replies from any of them. 

What makes you think they'd care about what you have to offer?

I realize this is a really confrontational question, but as public figures these guys are getting 'suggestions' all day long. Everyone's a critic. I don't think they really give a fuck what other people think of them, because they know you can't please everyone all the time and the only thing they have in common is their atheism.

Everything that I said to them was short and positive and informative.  Gee, if one is going to take time out of one's schedule to fly all of the World to give lectures on atheism, why not toss a small bone or two to one of the "faithful"?  Or, are their traveling lectures just a way to sell more of their books?  Yeah, I know what you're thinking (well, at least what I am thinking), "Who cares?"  And, you're (or, I am) right, "Who cares?"  Over six months ago, I asked Professor Lawrence Krauss, in a one or two line email (I believe that I also thanked him for his work), if he would please respond to this criticism of his book, written by Dr. Ikjyot Singh Kohli, a practicing mathematical physicist:

https://arxiv.org/abs/1405.6091

Now, of course, I am a stranger and Krauss owns me nothing, but as far as I can tell, Krauss has never replied to Kohili, who, like it or not, is one of his peers within the scientific community, but, in spite of that, he owes Kohli nothing either, also!  But, ditto for anyone else, including, the New York Times, even though they are much, much, much more prominent than "me", and I am also much less prominent than Kohli!  Now, as far as I know Krauss has not responded to this scientific paper, not a book review, a scientific paper that is published for the entire World to see on the Cornell University eprint server that Krauss and his colleagues themselves use, as does Stephen Hawking, Brian Greene, and even Michio Kaku (even though he has not published in a while!); in fact, nearly all physicists and other scientists use the arXiv eprint server.  So, why has Professor Krauss not responded to my one line email, "Professor Krauss, would you please respond to this...."?

Well, who knows and who cares?!  But, let me state to this board that I think that Krauss is a bit of a fraud, and, perhaps, he knows that responding to Kohli would only hurt his book sales, and hence, his pocketbook.  After all, why would an established scientist be unwililng to respond to one of his scientific critics??  And, so, I asked, but there was no reply.  I suspect that I was not the first to ask and I doubt that I will be the last!  A true scientist would, I believe, at least have an "open reply" on his/her website, or have a graduate student, volunteer, or someone else reply to what is an honest inquiry, one, let's face it, is not made every day.  Who here, after all, has heard of Dr. Ikjyot Singh Kohli?

By the way, years ago I emailed Stephen Hawking, not fan mail, not a criticism, just a question, one that I honestly did not know the answer to, but not trivial or "grandiose", either.  Within a day or two, one of his graduate students replied to me saying that, "I'll ask Stephen and get back to you."  Several days later he did.  I have since forgotten my question, but it is good to see even someone like the great Stephen Hawking to have some sort of public outreach, and so, I admire that.  Even Einstein was willing to reply, by letter, to "common folk" such as myself (although, Einstein was dead before I was born!  I am not that old.)

So, is Krauss nothing more than a money-making fraud?  I honestly do not know.  I never bought his book.  Now, I don't blame you if you've stopped reading my post by this point, but over the last several days, I have lost "faith" in the naturalist movement, or at least its "self-proclaimed/anointed leaders".  Perhaps that's a good thing!  I am still very much an atheistic naturalist!  But, yes, I do think that I have something to offer, hence, the somewhat long post!
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Messages In This Thread
The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 28, 2016 at 7:04 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 28, 2016 at 7:24 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2016 at 7:31 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Iroscato - September 28, 2016 at 7:31 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 28, 2016 at 7:33 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Edwardo Piet - September 28, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 28, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Excited Penguin - September 28, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Whateverist - September 28, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Minimalist - September 28, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Pat Mustard - September 29, 2016 at 8:57 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Whateverist - September 28, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by comet - September 28, 2016 at 8:04 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by comet - September 28, 2016 at 8:02 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 28, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Edwardo Piet - September 29, 2016 at 2:50 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 29, 2016 at 9:36 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Edwardo Piet - October 1, 2016 at 6:13 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by KevinM1 - September 28, 2016 at 8:16 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Simon Moon - September 28, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Iroscato - September 28, 2016 at 8:28 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Cyberman - September 30, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Minimalist - September 28, 2016 at 8:28 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Cato - September 28, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Edwardo Piet - September 29, 2016 at 2:53 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by robvalue - September 29, 2016 at 3:14 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by chimp3 - September 29, 2016 at 5:56 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 29, 2016 at 6:26 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by chimp3 - September 29, 2016 at 6:41 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 29, 2016 at 7:19 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Excited Penguin - September 29, 2016 at 5:57 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Joods - September 29, 2016 at 8:33 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by thesummerqueen - September 29, 2016 at 8:45 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 29, 2016 at 9:29 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Faith No More - September 30, 2016 at 7:38 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Iroscato - September 30, 2016 at 7:44 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Simon Moon - September 29, 2016 at 3:42 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 29, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 30, 2016 at 6:12 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by KevinM1 - September 29, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Macoleco - September 29, 2016 at 10:57 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Rayaan - September 30, 2016 at 5:49 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Arkilogue - September 30, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by thesummerqueen - September 29, 2016 at 11:24 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 30, 2016 at 5:18 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by KevinM1 - September 30, 2016 at 1:14 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 30, 2016 at 5:20 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Faith No More - September 30, 2016 at 7:36 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 30, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by chimp3 - September 30, 2016 at 5:46 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 30, 2016 at 5:56 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by LastPoet - September 30, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by thesummerqueen - September 30, 2016 at 8:23 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by thesummerqueen - September 30, 2016 at 10:13 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 30, 2016 at 2:20 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2016 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Arkilogue - September 30, 2016 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 30, 2016 at 3:30 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2016 at 3:14 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Arkilogue - September 30, 2016 at 3:16 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by thesummerqueen - September 30, 2016 at 3:42 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 30, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 30, 2016 at 4:27 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - September 30, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by thesummerqueen - September 30, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Grandizer - September 30, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - September 30, 2016 at 10:37 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Pat Mustard - October 1, 2016 at 6:04 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2016 at 11:24 pm
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Czechlervitz30 - October 1, 2016 at 6:18 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - October 1, 2016 at 6:51 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Czechlervitz30 - October 1, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Cyberman - October 1, 2016 at 6:51 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by thesummerqueen - October 1, 2016 at 7:59 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Jehanne - October 1, 2016 at 9:29 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Excited Penguin - October 1, 2016 at 9:33 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - October 1, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Excited Penguin - October 1, 2016 at 10:12 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - October 1, 2016 at 10:50 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Excited Penguin - October 1, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by abaris - October 1, 2016 at 11:00 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by Excited Penguin - October 1, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: The Atheist Movement. - by thesummerqueen - October 1, 2016 at 11:18 am

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