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A Loving God
RE: A Loving God
Still no idea what's going on I'm afraid. Thanks for trying.

There is no such thing as "correct" morality. It's based on value judgements. I don't give a monkeys what god's opinion is, if there is such a being.

It gets further complicated in religion: does morality mean doing what's best for people, or doing what God wants? If they are the same thing, God is irrelevant. If they are different, God poisons morality.

If you look at the bible and God and decide whether he is good or not, you already have your morality in place. You can't have it both ways.
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A Loving God - by Lek - September 24, 2016 at 3:38 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: A Loving God - by LastPoet - September 24, 2016 at 3:54 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Alex K - September 24, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: A Loving God - by LostLocke - September 24, 2016 at 4:12 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Faith No More - September 24, 2016 at 4:14 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Angrboda - September 24, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Edwardo Piet - September 24, 2016 at 4:21 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Lek - September 24, 2016 at 6:31 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Pat Mustard - September 26, 2016 at 5:33 am
RE: A Loving God - by LastPoet - September 24, 2016 at 5:03 pm
RE: A Loving God - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 24, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Lek - September 24, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: A Loving God - by chimp3 - September 24, 2016 at 7:03 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 7:20 pm
RE: A Loving God - by chimp3 - September 24, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Lek - September 24, 2016 at 7:55 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 8:22 pm
RE: A Loving God - by chimp3 - September 24, 2016 at 8:32 pm
RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 8:48 pm
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RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 8:59 pm
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RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 24, 2016 at 9:13 pm
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RE: A Loving God - by Arkilogue - September 25, 2016 at 12:27 am
RE: A Loving God - by chimp3 - September 30, 2016 at 4:30 am
RE: A Loving God - by Pat Mustard - September 26, 2016 at 5:36 am
RE: A Loving God - by Faith No More - September 24, 2016 at 8:32 pm
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